Question New Budget Build- amp, speakers?

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  1. Bluedug

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    Hi,

    Just recently purchased an Optoma HD27E and Optoma 92” screen for my first home projector. Borrowed the YSP-2700 sound bar from the living room but looking for a 5.1 set up. In the process of building another dedicated cinema room but that could realistically take a couple of years.

    So looking for a set up for this room that I can then move over (potentially). Room set up isn’t ideal, the attached photos show the suggested position of speakers with red cross.

    I like the idea of a Yamaha amp as already got the sound bar for the music cast feature. The amp must have 2 hdmi outs and the first option within Yamaha range for this appears to be the RXA870 however comments on here suggest this may not be the best value.

    The speakers I was looking for were the audio mass 5.1 set up. I know there are some comments that the sub might be lacking but as a first step I am happy enough to give it a go.

    So questions, are there any recommendations for any alternatives. Is it going to be possible to achieve a decent 5.1 set up in this room, are the rears two close together.

    The receiver must have 2 hdmi outs and networking features (radio, air play, etc). 4K not needed right now due to the projector and tv used but for future might be handy.

    Is the audio mass 5.1 set up still a good first step?

    Budget wise both of these are pretty much at the top end of what I’m looking to spend.


    Thank you

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    Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the above?
     
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    Decided to place the order for the audio mass 5.1 and Yamaha RX-A870
     
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    'Is it going to be possible to achieve a decent 5.1 set up in this room, are the rears two close together.' - a 5.1 system has (side) Surround speakers, you add in Rear speakers if you are going 7.1.

    If you have the option to play around with the Surround Speaker positioning before you finalise your cabling you ought to be able to find the best position for them - 5.1 Speaker Setup Guide

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    Thank you, I am limited by the rears. Think they will need to go either side of the back settee facing towards each other potentially as probably a bit close together. The fronts will be much further apart at around the full width 4.459m, possibly angling them towards the rear sofa.
     
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    Front LR - try and avoid them being at the extreme Left and Right of the room, the Centre will sound 'isolated' from them.

    Surrounds - one 'trick' you can try is to point them away from the listener, aimed instead at the walls and simply 'bounce' the sound off of the Side/Rear walls.

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    Audio mass 5.1 and Yamaha RX-A870 arrived :clap:

    Just in the process of getting it all set up. Have used the YPAO to make a start.

    I have noticed that the volume from hdmi source (either PS4 or Freesat box) is much quieter than when I put on net radio.

    At -26dB when using PS4 for prime (HDMI 1) or Freesat (hdmi 2) and it’s only just at an acceptable level for listening. If I then transfer to net radio that’s just too loud, is this normal?
     
  8. Joe Fernand

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    Perfectly ‘normal’ - see Pg 104 of the AVR User Manual which explains the ‘Input Trim’ setting.

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    Thanks Joe, downloaded the manual now so I can have tweak of settings.
     
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    @Joe Fernand set the PS4 trim to +6db and net radio to -6db but still a massive difference between the two with the net radio being much louder.
     

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