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    :hiya: Hi everyone. My First post on this site.

    I have noticed on the Sony US site that the S Series is out.
    46" S Series out May in the U.S. $no price
    40" S Series out now $2999.99
    32" S Series out now $1899.99
    26" S Series out now $1499.99

    I assume that the S Series will be the first out here and then followed by the V Series.

    I also saw on the Sony Luxembourg website http://www.sonycenter.lu/tv/tv.php

    KDL-46X2000 out april €5100
    KDL-46V2000 out april €3900
    KDL-46S2000 out april €3500
    KDL-40V2000 out april no price
    KDL-40S2000 out april €2300
    KDL-32V2000 out april €1650
    KDL-32S2000 out april €1420
    KDL-26S2000 out april €1120

    I don't know if these date are realistic and i do not know how well the prices compare to this country.

    I also pressed the UK to translate the site into english and it loses the V and X Series from the LCD List.

    Would it be wise to buy a New version of a TV that could have faults or buy the current version. Considering that availabilty is poor, it would seem that most back orders may be upgraded to a new version anyway. I can get my hands on the current version (v40). I am not fussed over the differences between the 2 versions. What do you think?
     
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    Prices are quite acceptable.
    Now considering the new X series was announced as 1080P, in Europe it again gets 'translated' to 1080i (UK version anyway) !
    I really really would like to know which LCDTV IS 1080P !?
    OK, the panel sure is, but so are some of the Philips panels, which can also not accept and show TRUE 1080p (p not for pixels :)).
    And, what about the PC resolution ?
    Does anyone know for sure ?
    I had my eye on this one, but if it again does not deliver I might go for the new Samsung M7 series in the summer. After all, Sony get S(amsung) panels anyway.
    That 5100 EUR has to mean something.
    (at least it is not 10.000 EUR like the new 1080p Pioneer plasma)
     
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    Is it me, or has the gap between the V and the S closed up quite considerably. Does anyone have the US and Euro prices for the old range so we can estimate what it'll translate to in real money?

    Very interested in the new S32 but if the V is only a little more expensive I might go for that.
     
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    Sorry, forgot to subscribe to the thread :)
     
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    Isn't Luxembourg a lot cheaper for tax and VAT (if they have it), so 5,100euro could be very generous, because for a 1st generation sony 1080p 46" LCD i'd be expecting it to start at around £4500-5000!
     
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    Don't worry, if they're like the present stock then nowhere other than sony centres will get a sniff of them for several months


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    my local sony centre have said May for the new v series but no prices. They are going to do a deal with Sky about selling the HD Boxes with Bravia screens with possible discounts.
     
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    "Full HD reproduces HD1080 picture exactly as it was transmitted..."
    Indeed, but if we look at the leaflet on the Lux. site it says 1080i input, not 1080p, however does mention 720p.
    Anyway, it does look promising.
    Doesn't anyone here have access to the new manuals for these new 2000 series ?
    I thought I read that in another thread.
    :lease:
     
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    The Lux site has a ton of mistakes on it, they only say 1 set of Component inputs for the KDL-32V2000 which is apparently not the case (let's hope so!)
     
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    What part of "Full HD (1920 x 1080) LCD panel" and "Capable of receiving 1080p signals" are we having trouble understanding ???

    Never mind what the Luxemburg web site says. The press release is crystal clear. The X-series is clearly meant to be the cutting edge "flag ship" panel and has been designed to give Sony's 1080p Bluray player and PS3 something to plug into at maximim res.
     
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    X Series...
    Evil...
    I don't really get why "FULL HD" is not always what WE think it should mean.
    And, companies keep changing initial specs that WERE stated.
    I'm not so sure Lux is wrong.
    I know the models from the US and Europe can be quite different.
    Of course in this case I sure hope everyone here is right.
    BTW does full HD also mean full HD for PC connections in this case ?
    I couldn't find a thing about that. Also not whether or not it would have USB, etherner and/or card connections.
    Guess it may still be too soon for that.
     
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    Rep., by 'Evil ...' I was referring to the guy by that nickname who responded to an earlier posting (sure not meant Sony by it, never owned one Sony device I was not satisfied about).
    The term FULL HD is AFAIK used by manufacturers in different context. I can only hope Sony means *much* more by that than mere 'panel resolution' that indeed indicates 1080p. Knowing e.g. Philips introduced models last year that initially stated (for EU vs US) completely different specs I am always cautious.
     
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    I'm after a 26" tv but Its really frustrating that Sony are not producing the new V as a 26". The new S will be the only choice. :(
     
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    The new X-series seems to be 40" and greater in size. I don't think they're making a 32" or smaller.

    But, the specs look quite good. The price should be interesting. :(
     
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    On the Sony Europe news site (official), it says that the x series will be 46" only but other websites mention that x series will be 40" and 46".

    What hifi page mentions the X series model uses an an uprated ‘EX’ version of the Bravia Engine picture processing, and offers full native 1080P resolution –

    the other screens will accept an input from 1080P-capable devices, but will show them at 1080i resolution. Prices are yet to be set for all the screens, which start with a 26in model and go right up to that 46in, and will be rolled out worldwide over the next few months.
     
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    X series should is first in 46" I believe in June/July then Sept for 40" and 52". I spoke to Sony (very helpfully) who gave me this detail over the phone, but when I also email the marketing lady, she confirmed June/July for 46" but wouldn’t comment on the other sizes. This was a bit of a concern as I want a 40"!!
    Also there is a new LCD version of the WEGA engine specifically designed for the new LCD range. I recon £3000 for the 40" will be a good ball park price.
    All of the X series will be true HD 1080p capable both from a displaying perspective and an accepting the 1080p signal perspective.
    As above Sony have to make sure their new toys have a panel that can actually make full use of the resolution.

    Credit card armed and ready! Roll on September.
     
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    And I'll track down the Sony people who I spoken to and send them down those hills after you! However, I'm pretty confident that the X series will be able to take1080p signal. Even if it only to have something to show thier new BluRay and PS3 on!!!
     
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    The 32 is just a bit to big for my small living room. Thought I would wait and see how the new S compares with the old V. But I do love the styling of the V and do think the new V will be a big improvement over the current models which makes it that more frustrating.
     
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    Does anyone know if these new screens will allow PC connection over HDMI/DVI @50Hz using 1080p ?
     
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    X series is supposed to have a HP15 pc slot (whatever that is, not too up on pc's). I don't think the others ranges do though. Have a look at www.sony.co.uk and the press release section. I'm pretty sure the X series is the only one comming with the 2 x hdmi etc and pc link.
     
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    Don't joke! They used to remove the HD-Ready inputs from their HDTVs!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
     
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    Two component connectors and VGA on S and V is a big enough improvement for me. Unless my local Sony Centre wants to discount the old S enough for me to buy a switcher.
     
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    Are you talking about the updated V-Series?

    An optional brightness sensor, VGA input that supports 1:1 mapping, an extra set of Component inputs, and apparently improved colour reproduction certainly don't sound like a "very little improvement" to me! On paper it looks like a huge improvement and according to Kourosh who has seen the displays side by side, the difference is nothing to be sniffed at. I on the other hand will reserve judgement until I see it for myself :smashin:

    Out of curiosity, are you a current V-Series owner?
     
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    Lyris, do you have the specs for the new S series? I was on the verge of buying the current S32 when I read about the new one which is obviously worth waiting for if the price is comparable! I'm not bothered about a brightness sensor but the 1:1 mapping sounds nice - do you know if that's a feature on the S? In fact, is it the case that the new V is only different to the S in having the posh WEGA engine and nicer looks?
     
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    Sony of Europe seemed to bungle the spec for the S-Series less than the V so the difference isn't going to be as pronounced for those. The S-Series already has the Brightness Sensor and the PC input.

    The new "2000" series have "BRAVIA Engine". According to the AV Forums podcast, it's the picture cleanup system designed completely for LCD TVs, whereas "WEGA Engine" (what the current V series has) was a system made for CRT TVs and adapted for LCD. What that difference translates to (if anything) I'm not sure, we'll have to wait and see.

    The [current] S-Series also doesn't store settings per-input like the Vs do (Brightness and Colour etc settings affect all inputs). And apparently the panels in the current S-Series are quite disappointing as well, some site showed some pretty poor figures from tests. There's bound to be some more differences but I haven't spent enough time with one of the S sets to say.

    The spec is here, but keep in mind this site has some mistakes: http://www.sonyproductinformatie.nl/200601site/nl/detail.php?product=KDL26S2000 (26" link)

    I'm not sure about 1:1 mapping on the S. Can anyone who has a current Sony S-Series tell us if that works?
     
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    A few more clues to model numbers and sizes that will be available can be found here....
     
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    Bellow is the technical data of the new 32V2000 i received by my retailer yesterday:
    PICTURE
    Display Device LCD
    Screen Size 32" (81.3cm)
    Panel S-PVA WXGA
    Resolution 1366 x 768
    Aspect Ratio 16:9
    Contrast Ratio / Brightness (cd/m2) 1300 : 1 / 500 (TBC)
    Response time (ms) 8 (TBC)
    Viewing Angle 178œ
    Picture enhancement processor BRAVIA ENGINE
    Live Colour Creation •
    HD-Ready •
    PAL 3D Comb filter •
    GENERAL
    Dimensions in mm (WxHxD) 792 x 593 x 219
    (with stand)
    792 x 546 x 99
    (without stand)
    Weight without stand (kg) 15.0 Kg


    Swivel Angle L 15 R15
    Power Supply (V) 220-240V 50Hz
    Power Consumption / Standby (W) TBD / TBD
    SOUND
    Audio Output (RMS) 10W + 10W
    Surround TruSurround XT
    Sound BBE Digital
    FEATURE
    No. of Tuners 1 digital / 1 analog
    Screen Memo • (PinP memo)
    Sleep Timer • (30/60/90/120min)
    Teletext • (700 pages)
    Light Sensor •
    CONNECTORS
    HDMI 1/ Audio in 1
    Scart 2(2RGB)
    Audio out 1
    S-Video input 1/ Audio in 1
    Component in 1(Y,Pb,Pr)/Audio in 1
    Composite in 1/ Audio in 1
    PC in 1(D-sub)/ Stereo mini 1
    Headphone output 1x (3.5 mm)
    OTHERS
    Color system PAL,SECAM,NTSC 3.58
    (only Video in),4.43
    Channel coverage (only Video in)
    VHF:E2-E12 UHF:E21-E69
    CATV:S1-S20 Hyper:S21-S41
    D/K : R1-R12,R21-69
    L : F2-F10,B-Q,F21-F69
    I : UHF B21-B69

    Input signal 1080i/720p/576p/576i/
    480p/480i
    AC Built-in
    Optional Accessory Wall mount bracket:
    SU-WL31
    TV stand –
     

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