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Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by Reiner, Aug 27, 2001.

  1. Reiner

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    Pioneer VSA-AX10:

    <a href="http://www.area-dvd.de/news/2001/200108/2508200109.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.area-dvd.de/news/2001/200108/2508200109.shtml</a>

    Denon AVC-11SR:

    <a href="http://www.area-dvd.de/news/2001/200108/2508200107.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.area-dvd.de/news/2001/200108/2508200107.shtml</a>

    Yamaha RX-V1200:

    <a href="http://www.area-dvd.de/news/2001/200108/2508200101.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.area-dvd.de/news/2001/200108/2508200101.shtml</a>

    Onkyo:

    <a href="http://www.area-dvd.de/news/2001/200108/2708200103.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.area-dvd.de/news/2001/200108/2708200103.shtml</a>
     
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    Reiner,

    That Pioneer looks interesting. Cant understand most of it, but it appears that the Pioneer has "THX Ultra 2". First time I've heard of it. Do you know what it does differently form the original THX Ultra standard?

    Russell
     
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    Yes, you read correct: THX Ultra 2 is a new standard developed for digital home cinema.<br />New is the cinema mode for 7.1 processing and THX post processing for DTS Es Discrete (true 6.1) which is automatically detected.<br />It comes furthermore with a THX Music mode for 24/96 recordings and DVD-A.
     
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    ..............so does this mean that the Denon AVC-A1SE with the *upgrade* previously mentioned, is already out of date?

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    I can't believe that Denon will not include THX Ultra 2; they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they didn't. Denon has sold a lot of their A1SE’s on the strength that they are software upgradeable, not to mention THX Ultra approved. What would Denon owners think, I wonder, if Denon don't include features that other, less expensive solutions offer? No, Denon must offer this function in their upgrade or be left behind, and that just won't do for a future-proofed £2k amp. Of course, Denon could release another flagship amp to replace the A1SE...

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    I don't think the THX U2 label is necessary but rather assume the e.g. AVC-11SR does comply with the specs as it offers THX processing for DTS Es Discrete - and I further guess the upgrade for the AVC-A1SE will do the same.<br />Not sure if the Cinema Mode and Music Mode will be included though.<br />If not it's out of date. <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

    The argument that lot's of units were sold with the promise of being upgradable is of no use as it's at Denon's discretion which upgrades they offer (guess nobody has a (futureproof) compliance list!?), if any. What do you do if they don't offer an upgrade? Nothing, but Denon has already "won" as they sold you one.<br />But I don't want to accuse Denon here or being too pessimistic, so let's just wait and see ...
     

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