New 42inchPioneer

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  1. Flash80

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    I have been keeping an eye on these forums for quite some time now as i am getting close to buying a 42 inch plasma. I have been leaning towards a panasonic 600 but was waiting on the new pioneer. Has anybody got any info about them.
     
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    The 6th generation of the Pioneer displays are the latest ones you will find.
    I have the 436 XDE which is absolutely superb.
    Every review I read rated it the No. 1 plasma display available.

    If you don't need the stand or speakers then go to www.shopbyprice.co.uk.
    Cheapest place I found it.

    Scott
     
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    thanks, i knew the 7th gen was due out soon. However just been reading some posts and it seems i may have to go back to the drawing board as i am sitting too close to the screen. I think the GF has the couch about 4 maybe 5 feet from the tv. Is that not a bit too close :mad: and no we cannot move much further back, the room is a funny shape and won't allow that
     
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    I think flash means the forthcoming 7th gen Pioneers, which are 42" not 43".

    Some details are here:
    http://pioneer.jp/press/release164.html

    No media receiver, sports mode and 10-bit HDMI jump out as big changes.

    It's fairly obvious though that the 7th gen is one big exercise in cost-cutting to regain competitiveness. Expect prices to go head on with the Panasonics.
     
  6. HR_The_Butcher

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    Is 10-bit HDMI a bad thing?

    I'm also keeping an eye on new Pioneer 427 series. I know it uses a NEC panel, but I've been reading some USA forums (427 is already available over the pond) and ppl don't seem to mind. Didn't find any reviews, tho.

    Does anybody know if Panasonic will launch new models soon?
     
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    Theres lots on this in this forum. Personally I think you're right. 4-5' is probably a bit too close. Prob ok with HD but SD nope. For 42' I would recommend 9' min.

    Buy a new house for your 50" model ;)
     
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    I agree with this...

    I don't think you be happy at all with the SD picture at 4/5ft away from a 42" screen..

    Am myself is about 10ft to 11ft away from my 43" pioneer plasma which i say is about just right.
     
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    Nice prices here:

    http://www.hifi-regler.de/shop/pioneer/pioneer_pdp-4270xa.php
     
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    Hi everyone

    Like a lot of people here, I have been waiting to see a review of the 427 series in the UK, particularly how it compares to the 436. Well my copy of the October What Hi Fi flopped through my letterbox 30 minutes ago and has a full page first test on the higher spec 427XD...

    ... 5 stars, full of praise on SD, DVD and HD PQ, and "it might be an inch or two narrower than its predecessors but its performance reaches across far greater boundaries".

    Can't wait to see one on demo. Do any of the stores have them yet?
     
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    Good news for everyone that's been waiting for this model. Tnx!
     
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    I would second that.

    I had to move a foot xtra back (from 6 to 7ft) with my Panny 37" (SD material) and it's a bit better.

    Idealy i'd like to be 8-9 ft away so i'd imagine a 43" would be best around 10ft give or take.
     
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    My local Pioneer dealer is expecting to get the PDP-427XD within the next two weeks. I am assured the panel is a fanless design as well (if like me you hate panel buzz/fan noise :thumbsup: ).
     
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    But have Pioneer resolved the screen-burn issue of the 436 :confused:
     
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    Can you put all full page review? Thanks
     
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    Might have copy right issues placing a scan of the review online, I am sure the moderators will not be happy.

    Pop down to your newsagents on thursday and purchase a copy; it has a group test of large screens tooo

    adrian
     
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    I'd love to get one of the TVs - but I wonder how I will know if the retention problems have been sorted. I guess I'll just have to wait a few months and see if anyone has any problems...
     
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    Get a Panny and you won't have to worry :rolleyes:

    Of course you may want a stylish display so forget the PX range and go for a PH9

    Flameproof suit deployed ;) :D :rotfl:
     
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    You might be right, but I personally, just don't like how the Panny's look.
     
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    screen burn was resolved post october 6th gen build date.

    the new gen are not cost cutting exercises at te expense of quality. the purchase of NEC came with a glass cutting machine that allows 2 screens to be made in 42 inches from the supply glass with far less waste in terms of off cuts. Thats why they are now 42 inch, much more cost effective.

    They are not rebranded NECs.
     
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    Will a Plasma bought from the German site on page 1 work OK in the UK as I thought we had a different system PAL to them?

    As even with a delivery charge it makes it a very good deal
     
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    Picture=Yes
    Sound=No
     
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    Had a demonstration on a Pioneer 436 XDE yesterday which I was very impressed by after a trip to Home Media in Maidstone. Is it worth waiting for the new Pioneers to come out? These guys have a sale on in August which looks good. Any Ideas??
     
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    You can buy/pre-order the new Pioneer 427XD for around £2099 (i.e. www.avsales.co.uk). My local dealer expects to recieve their first units in the next two weeks. Judging from the specifications and the review in 'What Hi-Fi' I cannot see any sense in buying a 436 (potentially an lesser performing panel) unless you are able to get a really good discount. The new 427 is supposed to be a fanless design by the way, so should be quiet.

    Hopefully the 427 will not suffer the retention and lip sync issues which seem! to have plagued the 436.
     
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    On the assumption that the German website could supply a UK version why is it they offer a Pioneer 2 yr warranty as standard whilst in the UK it is only 1 yr.

    Not had it confirmed they can supply the UK version but they ave confirmed cost for TV, stand and delivery
     
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    Its the same with other brands of TVs/electrical goods i.e. Philips. On mainland Europe (i.e. Germany/France) you get 2 years manufacturers warranty whereas in the UK you only get 1. Not sure of the exact reason for this (apart from the British consumer getting ripped off as usual or/and EU regulations!!)....
     
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    Sounds about right, guess it will be like buying a right hand drive car in Europe which will end up costing more than a left hand one.

    If they are able to supply a UK version (waiting for confirmation) and it comes with 2 year European warranty, that should be transferable to the UK
     
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    I'm about to buy my second plasma panel. I'm perfectly happy with my first, a Pioneer PDP 436 XDE, which I've had since last November.

    Deeply confused where to go from here, especially since the external media box on the XDE is helpful for me.

    Options:
    1. Buy another 436 XDE, although they don't seem that cheap (went into one shop in Tottenham Court Road yesterday and the dealer wasn't moving below £2,300 including speakers and stand)....

    2. Wait for the 427 and deal with the inevitable spaghetti...

    or

    3. Fujitsu 50 series in black?

    Anyone have any suggestions?

    Many thanks
     

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