Network media players - Which to go for?

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  1. mulletboy2

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    Hi guys,

    I'm going to be in the market for a network streaming media player at some point very soon, but haven't got a clue what to look for, or what's best/coming out soon.

    It doesn't need the ultimate in audio quality for 2-channel use, and will be connected via component/HDMI to my processor (Emotiva LMC-1: http://www.emotivaaudio.com/lmc1.html ) and then on to an 32" Panasonic Viera / Nad 6 channel amp / Definitive Technologies Mythos 5.1 speaker setup.

    I haven't really been in to media downloads before, so don't really know what I'm looking for regarding desirable features/formats. The media server is running Slackware Linux, so I guess that'll limit which hardware and server software I can look at.

    Where do I start? I looked briefly at the Netgear EVA8000 yesterday, but according to forums in the States, it seems to have a fair number of issues.

    Any advice greatfully received :)

    Cheers

    Mark
     
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    As far as I know all these streamers have some issue or another.

    It would be helpful to know what type of files you are intending to play?

    For what it's worth, I have both the Showcenter 1000 and 200 models. Both have significant problems with some types of files, though the 200 is better.

    Currently I use Zoomplayer from my PC via two 10m HDMI and SPDIF cables, coupled with an old MCE remote and receiver that I found somewhere. The PC runs on XPSP2, not MCE. If your PC is somewhere where you can run the cables from, then this may be a very good and cheap solution.

    It all works fine and seems to play every single file known to man, including HD WMV, DTS wav, etc. etc. I'm a happy bunny.

    For media on CD/DVD I use my Oppo DVD player, simply because it's easier than walking into the other room to change disks.
     
  3. mulletboy2

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    Thanks for the reply :)

    PC isn't an option for various reasons I don't think anyone will be interested in :boring: so it's really got to be a network attached dedicated device.

    As for what types of files I want to play - hrmm.. music-wise, MP3 and FLAC, video I really don't know (have yet to start downloading anything) - whatever the most prevailant formats are I guess? :rolleyes: WMV/MP4/?

    Cheers

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    You can forget the Showcenter for a start.

    I don't know how many, if any, streamers will play FLAC but I suggest that you make this the basis for your search and then work backwards.
     
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    Great to know, thanks for that :)
     
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    I believe the Helios x5000 plays FLAC

    also look at;

    Snazio x1350
    Helios x3000/x5000
    Kiss DP-600


    downloaded films come in XviD/DivX for standard def normally and x264/mkv, ts, wmv or DivX HD for high def stuff. The great problem is there are currently no media players that will play x264/mkv, shame because it's the combo that provides the best container/codec for space and quality.
     
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    DVICO are just about to start shipping their new TVix M5100 in the next week or so, this basically does everything..

    It seems to be almost the Holy grail of streamers, playing DVD ISO's, H264 (inc vc-1), and just about every other video format going, as well as all the audio formats.. You can put an internal HDD in, and it has an optional tuner attachment that turns it into a PVR..

    The previous model, the M5000 has been very well received, with constant updates being done to make it a very good streamer..

    I've been waiting to see how the EVA8000 turned out, but it seems to have a few issues, and the engineers seem reluctant to add features people want..

    I think I'll be getting the M5100 or M4100 (Almost identical, different case) as I'm fed up with the PS3 as a media streamer, because it isn't...
     
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    The Tivx 5100 has been "coming soon" for over a year. Glad I didn't hold my breath.
     
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    Thanks guys, much appreciated :)

    Sounds like I may be best just holding fire for a little while then. I'm not in any great hurry, so there's no sense in jumping the gun.

    Cheers

    Mark
     
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    Are you sure it's a year? the 5000 hasn't been out for a year yet!!

    Anyway, The distributors have got shipments, and preproduction units are around.. so you'd be safe to hold you breath now..

    It does sound like the best unit available.. by some margin...
     
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    But apparently still no details on the Tivx website?
     
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    If you want sound only, then get a Sonos. Absolutely the best. The reviews are not wrong. Perhaps not cheap but its quality.
    I am looking for a video client with similar ease of use. I have a Momitsu network player and DVD upscaler, but its jumpy and seems a discontinued product line, and the remote is naff.
     
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    I'm quite interested in the EVA8000 and have been a regular reader of the forum on the Netgear site. The guys there seem to be dealing with a few of the issues put to them by US buyers of the box. Does anyone have any idea when the EVA8000 will be available in the UK and at what sort of price? The earliest and cheapest that I am able to find so far is here http://www.wizardprice.com/products/EVA8000-100UKS.NE everywhere else seems to be closer to the £200 mark so I'm not convinced this is right.

    Toffer.
     
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    Amazon UK have it for £99 including delivery.
     
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    Yet on Amazon.com it's $349.99???
     
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    Yeh tis strange :S
     
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    I too am interested in this unit. What features have people been asking for that the engineers seem reluctant to add? There are very few reviews available so I can't really get a feel for what it can, and cannot, do.
     
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    So what is the difference between the 4100 and 5100?
    Different DVB Tuners and PVR setup?

    So this will play x264/mkv files? The only one so far that will do this right?
     
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    For more information check out this site:
    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=825089

    There are some speculations about MKV support. But I'm after H.264 network media streamer and this is the first one that seems to support it (well at least the only one that I have come come across).
     
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    scooby_doo

    Have you checked out the Netgear forum for this model? There are several issues discussed there that have been replied to by people from the company and it seems that they are interested in what people want. They also seem to be working towards resolving some of the issues. It's at http://forum1.netgear.com/forumdisplay.php?f=85
     
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    I think the major bug-bears are
    1. No DVD Iso support, they are only just adding in IFO support for DVD's ripped to your hard drive.. most people hold DVD's in ISO's..
    2. Popular H264 streams (BBC-HD) which are high bitrate don't play..

    Look at the US forum for more info.. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=782700&page=1&pp=30

    It does seem like the TVIX4100/5100 are really the ones to get...

    The models are identical, bar the case and the optional tuner for the 5100 is a better/different design..

    So if you don't mind the square plastic case of the 4100, as opposed to the metal round case of the 5100, then you can save yourself a few £££'s..
     
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    Hi,

    i have been reading with interest about the Tvix products but can't seem to work out if they have more than one tuner?

    i.e. Can you record one program whilst watching another?

    Also whats the difference between the 5100, 5010, 5030?

    Any ideas.
     
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    I have had a Tvix 4100 for about a week now, and am happy with it for the most part. I use it mainly for streaming my hdv camcorder files which it plays flawlessly. The only problem I have had is occassionally it will drop the sound when streaming HD files (.m2ts) on the network through the HDMI connection. But the sound will continue to be there if I use the RCA output. I have even been able to play ripped blu ray files over the LAN (I continue to experiment with this, so far have only been able to stream MPEG 2 blu ray movies).
     
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    Which is best the TVIX5100 or the Pixel Magic Systems HD MediaBox MB200 ?

    Thanks
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    Best for what?
     
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    All round HD playback including playing files from a network.

    Thanks
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    I think that depends on the file types you are wanting to play/stream (*.TS/MKV/H264 etc).
     

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