Question Nettop for Kodi

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  1. Hpi_matrix

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    On the suggestion of some members on here ive had a little play with Kodi and im impressed by some of the things it can do, there are some nice *ahem* add ons.

    Looks like there are various ways I could implement it into the tv system (andriod box from ebay, firestick, Pi2, firestick etc), I imagine however these will be a little trickier to set-up then my laptop experience?

    Is there any reason not to go for a nettop or small form factor PC? Should be easy as my laptop to set-up and have the advantage of running windows. A quick browse on ebay shows them at around £60.
     
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    i borrowed a mates android box a while ago , to see what all the fuss was about with Kodi/xbmc
    and after looking at the android box ( which was cheap and nasty )
    i like the whole idea of it ,
    but i didn't buy a android box , i went with the intel nuc n2820 ( there's a thread about it a little down in this section)
    it was about £100 and all so had to buy some ram which was about £20 or so ( cant remember off the top of my head )
    you will need an ssd or usb3 flash drive to install openelec > kodi on to it , to get it up and running
    so the total cost was about £150 or there abouts

    this might seem like an expensive option to pick , but it also give me the option to install windows onto an ssd and fit it into the nuc if i ever wanted too,
    i use it all the time now so it was money well spent in my eyes ,

    so yes given the option to spend a bit of money on a nuc or nettop than a cheap and nasty android
    and have the added benefit to install windows onto it ,
    the yes , go for it :smashin:

    on and other plus side , i'm looking at turning the nuc into a htpc to get even more use out of it .
     
  3. Hpi_matrix

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    What was wrong with the android box compared to the Intel NUC? And would I see similar issues using an amazon fire tv stick?
     
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    Possibly one of the cheapest and easiest ways to set up is a Raspberry Pi 2 and Openelec.

    The install consists of downloading the diskimage from Kodi\Openelec downloads. Using Diskimager another free tool to format and prepare the SD. You then whack it in the Pi, connect to network and TV etc and a keyboard and power it on. Follow a couple of prompts and its installed. The you configure like any other instance for you media files etc.

    Alternatively if have to buy the MicroSD card in the first place you can buy a Noobs one with Openelec pre installed, iirc.

    I would say its dead easy to do. As you are not running Windows you don't need to worry about configuring all that, updates, AV etc etc. It boots really quickly too.

    I have both a NUC the i3 version and Pi 2 running Openelec and it works really well. Use a central database for metadata and it tracks all my viewstates and info in one.
     
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    That is an extremely good shout, I would have bought it straight away if it had wifi and HDMI built in.

    Im still struggling to understand the difference between buying something like the above and using a fire stick? Will the firestick stutter? Will the menu system just be a bit slower?
     
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    The Menu will definitely be slower, FF and RWD may cause a bit of buffering and the firestick won't do HD Audio, not sure if that HP Mini PC can, (seems so in Windows)

    If you're thinking of going Firestick then why not the FireTV as it has a bit more grunt under the bonnet?
     
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    You could get a display port to hdmi cable or adaptor for a couple of quid I think, but the lack of WiFi is a bit odd.

    Personally I wouldn't get a fire tv stick, but the GUI on my fire tv runs at a similar speed to that on my i5 mac or RPi2, however I don't use a heavy skin.
     
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    The bits I need are cheap enough (usb wifi, adapter etc) but I was only looking at spending around £50 and its already double (as these projects always seem too!), however weighing everything up it looks like a good bit of kit that will be worth the extra over the Pi2 or fire tv box.

    Any reason behind this?
     
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    Well just spoke to the missus and she was suitably impressed that I have free reign to buy something decent :D
     
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    I'd get a Pi2 with a flirc case, looks lovely, very energy efficient and runs kodi brilliantly.

    Unless you need apps (then look at a fire tv) or hd audio (then look at a nettop) it will do all you need and do it very well.

    On the fire tv stick -I've read a few poor reports about kodi on it and since the fire tv is not much more, but is faster and more stable id get that if I wanted android apps.
     
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    Another Pi2 vote (with the official case though ;) )

    Sold my Mac Mini and everything running just as well on my Pi - stunning for about £35 :)
     
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    The pi 2 will do hd audio in the latest kodi build albeit via LPCM
     
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    Why the official case?
     
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    Just personal preference - think it's put together really well and looks better than previous cases I've had. :)
     
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    Is it the white and red one I googled?
     
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    Yea that's the one. Just find all the others a bit angular - it just plastic in construction though ;)
     
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    +1 for Pi 2, it's my latest in a long line of "best thing I ever bought" ;-)
     
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    I added up all the bits id need for the Pi2 and it was looking to cost around £65 all in, my experience with the original Pi wasn't great so that put me off a bit. In comparison I thought the HP offered quite a bit more for the money so went for that (admittedly before seeing the strong following on here for the Pi!).

    Thanks for all the suggestions and help though, my father has the original Pi so if he likes the Kodi system Il get him to go along the Pi2 route as he already has all the other bits required making it much more viable for him.
     
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    Yes the pi 2 with it being quad core is substantially faster than original. Are you going to run Windows on your hp? I wouldn't necessarily bother just get the Intel openelec build is much quicker
     
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    Seems like I can boot openelec from a usb and keep windows on the ssd? Anyhow part of the attraction of a windows based system is it would be pretty much plug and play, no doubt il tinker with it at a later date.
     
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    You could do.

    Don't get me wrong I use Windows a lot but compared to Openelec install if its a dedicated media player then it is so much quicker to install than Windows. Especially when you get into installing updates.
     
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    Sorry me thinking you have to install Windows on it doh!
     
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    Currently using Cubox i4/Openelec which is OK but lot of boot graphical "issues". Got it over the Pi as the Cubox had optical out via spdif as I have old amp with no HDMI!
    I'm now wishing I had gone down the mini PC so I could of remote desktoped from my main win7 machine.

    But can't find a mini pc/nuk 'alike with optical out, Any ideas?
     
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    Any NUC with a behringer uca202 could be a possibility.
    I've never tried one with OpenElec so it would be worthwhile doing some research first though.
     
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    Sounds good Jamie

    I will make some enquiries.
     
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    The Behringer certainly works in a couple of different flavours of Linux, I use one with a Joggler running Ubuntu. OpenElec is a bit different in the way it works if that's the route you go so may not be as straight forward. Windows would also be not a problem.
     
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    sounds good

    Have look here Jamie Question - Cubox i4 alternatives | AVForums
     
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    Pc came next day from dabs; very speedy boot times, by the time ive changed the input on my tv its on. Very impressed with it for a brand new sub £100 machine.

    I was set-up and running Kodi within about 15 minutes, the hardest part was getting the cheap display port adapter to work!
     

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