Netflix's Velvet Buzzsaw Review & Comments

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    1. Casimir Harlow

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      Sounds intriguing cheers @Casimir Harlow i will definitely give this one a viewing :smashin:
       
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      Think I'll give this a go. I like Rene Russo, I'm sure she could find work outside of her husband's productions. That little aside seemed unfair.
       
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      Hmmm, I like her too so my comment wasn't really supposed to be against her. Maybe looking at Gilroy, but moreover a reflection of Hollywood - it looks like the only way she could get a decent role in the last 20 years (I'm thinking Nightcrawler and Two for the Money here) was by her husband casting her. So no, I don't think she can really find much work outside of her husband's productions. She's a 64 year old actress in Hollywood.
       
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      Thanks for the review Cas,give a watch over the weekend :)
       
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      Wow is she that old and got coerces into having sex in Nightcrawler. Looks a good 64.
       
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      The supernatural elements really didn’t work for me, didn’t find it scary at all but the performances were good across the board, all except for the British girl who I thought was terrible.
      5/10
       
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      Watched this last night, I thought it was a decent story stretched too thin... at least half an hour too long.

      I was teetering on the edge of boredom before the supernatural elements kicked in, and even then it dragged in parts.

      On the upside it looked fantastic, and there was a good cast.

      Movie: 6/10
      PQ: 9/10
      Sound: 7/10
       
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      With 9-10 billion dollars budget, the Movies should be Cinema good.

      Now we see a new term Netflix Movie Quality being used allot.

      Why don’t they commission Spielberg and Nolan class Directors to make Netflix movies?
       
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      I think that kind of budget is split behind a LOT of different projects.

      They have a roster of ace directors who've done work - Alex 'Ex Machina' Garland did Annihilation, Paul 'Bourne' Greengrass did 22 July, David 'Hell and High Water' McKenzie did Outlaw King, Alfonso 'Gravity' Cuaron did Roma, Gareth 'The Raid' Evans did The Apostle, Jeremy 'Blue Ruin' Saulnier did Hold the Dark, and Duncan 'Moon' Jones did Mute.

      I don't think the issue is the directors, but perhaps the 'streamlined' production process. There are more checks and balances involved in a mainstream theatrical release before they finally hit the Big Screen. From length of film dictated by number of showings putting more pressure on having critical editing, to the lack of test audience impact (no reshoots here!), there are plusses and minuses as, whilst we don't end up with The Predator, the end results still often smack of indulgent filmmaking.

      There are several of these that actually look and feel like 'perfected' theatrical quality movies (Annihilation and Roma are just two, but most of the above work pretty well on that front, with only Jones' Mute standing out due to appalling editing).

      I don't think Spielberg will ever Netflix, and Nolan doesn't make enough films to dedicate years of his life only to see one land on the 'small' screen, but if you need even higher profile directors then this year's giving us Martin Scorsese, teaming up with DeNiro, Pacino, Keitel and Pesci (for the first time working on the same film together), as well as Peter Berg (Lone Survivor) and Mark Wahlberg, Steven Soderbergh (Solaris), and even Michael Bay (!)
       
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      That’s a shame as she’s a fantastic actress. Russo had a great run of films in the 90s such as In the Line of Fire, Get Shorty, Tin Cup, LW3 and The Thomas Crown Affair remake.
       
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      Thought this was a bit of a mess. I'm assuming its satirical, but I can't figure out what its meant to be satirising. Selfish people? The art world? Commercialism? The media in general? What about them? All the characters are dislikeable except for Natalia Dyer's Coco (got a bit of an old man crush on her- she's so pretty), so I found it difficult to care. Great set design and some lovely LA cinematography, but overall it's a bit of a waste of a terrific cast. A huge step down from Nightcrawler. 5/10
       
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      ‘Martin Scorsese, teaming up with DeNiro, Pacino, Keitel and Pesci’.
      Wow. Looking forward to that. I am a fan. Thank you for the detailed response.

      When it comes to Series and Documentaries I think Netflix is second to none. Amazing.

      If you listen to the latest AVFORUMS podcast there is a tone that suggests Netflix Movies are not even worth reviewing ‘thats below my pay grade’ Cas.
       
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      Watched it last night and really enjoyed it.Gilroy has borrowed a lot from Oscar Wilde’s Dorian Gray,were Dorian gray had the greed for eternal youth Russo’s Rhodora Haze motivation was filthy lucre.I don’t think I have ever seen Russo as good as this she really stole the show.
      I don’t think Gilroy will ever make a better movie than nightcrawler but then again not many directors have in the last few years.
       
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      Yeah, I get that, but unlike theatrical releases, Netflix movies aren't advertised well at all (in fact, you barely know when a new one has landed) so I think there's definitely room to give them some coverage, good or bad.

      I know they're very hit and miss, but - given the amount it costs to have an account - it's a no brainer really. If you compare to, for example, a Cineworld/Odeon pass, and couple that with the costs associated with going to a cinema, getting this much content (within which there are undeniably some gems which, as you say, often lie with the TV shows and documentaries) is superb value for money.

      They just need better critical assessment during the production process, rather than a 'who cares, it's only a Netflix movie after all' which is how it feels some of them have been made.

      At the moment, some of the best gems to hit the platform are those which studios clearly didn't really understand / have any faith in and so 'dumped them on Netflix'. That's how Annihilation ended up there rather than on the Big Screen. I'd bet money that that's exactly what would have happened to the Snowpiercer movie had it been made a few years later. In this respect, it's actually really lucky we have the platform; Snowpiercer, for example, never got released in the UK - not at the cinema and not even on home formats, which is an absolute travesty.
       
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      Pretty surprised this ended up on Netflix than mainstream cinema esp with the cast that involved. Netflix films don't really get the glory like mainstream films but straight to our box can't be a bad thing, we have seen some right gems.
      Thought the film was ok, the British actress that keeps pouting everytime she is on screen was a put off. Thought she was out of her depth.
      Jake, Rene and John M are always a delight to watch. Toni played the bitch role pretty well also.
      Give it a 6/10
      Not a patch on Nightcrawler, will take something special again from Gilroy to beat that baby.
       
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      OK. Just watched this and it hasn't done a thing to change my opinion on Netflix original films. Cheap, B-movies with a disinterested A-list cast. The plot and acting were so sub-par I was almost convinced I was watching a really drawn out episode from the 1970's "Roald Dahl's Tales of the Unexpected" with special effects akin to Blake's 7. Rubbish, absolute rubbish!
      I give it 3/10 and those 3 are for Jake providing a little bit of guy-candy.
       

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