Netflix's The Irishman Review & Comments

My biggest gripe was De Niro's appalling Irish accent. To be honest I thought he sounded American most of the time.
I’m Irish and I didn’t even hear it, assumed his parents or grandparents had been Irish and therefore he was too even though born in the US (still to watch the second half).
All I heard was American which was a hell of a lot better compared to Mr Pitts first attempt back in the day with The Devils own, now that was a shocker of an accent...to be sure...
 
I’m Irish and I didn’t even hear it, assumed his parents or grandparents had been Irish and therefore he was too even though born in the US (still to watch the second half).
All I heard was American which was a hell of a lot better compared to Mr Pitts first attempt back in the day with The Devils own, now that was a shocker of an accent...to be sure...

I was just kidding around :). He's American of Irish decent so there's no accent. Like some others, I Ive noticed that that community refer to themselves as 'Irish' despite only a tenuous connection to your fair Isle.
 
Money well spent...ahem...

Given how the '30 something' De Niro moved, they should have spent that money on cod liver oil...

Cod liver oil, couple Jane Fonda fitness videos, Yoga class with Davina McCall, Singing lessons from Katie Price and washed down nicely with a Dom Perignon :)
 
Cod liver oil, couple Jane Fonda fitness videos, Yoga class with Davina McCall, Singing lessons from Katie Price and washed down nicely with a Dom Perignon :)

Risky with the Jane Fonda video though. The only truly impressive crack on display wouldn't be Miss Fonda's, it'd be the sound of De Niro's forearm..
 
I started to watch this again last night and I personally think its a masterpiece. Deniro will get an Oscar nomination for sure.
I do agree that the CGI wasn't the best but didn't take anything away from the film. This film was a Deniro project to start of with and has been in the making for over 12 years and I for sure am glad its now available.

Jimmy Hoffa: Who's gonna be there?
Frank Sheehan: Everybody.
Jimmy Hoffa: Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, and Tony, huh?
 
I started to watch this again last night and I personally think its a masterpiece. Deniro will get an Oscar nomination for sure.
I do agree that the CGI wasn't the best but didn't take anything away from the film. This film was a Deniro project to start of with and has been in the making for over 12 years and I for sure am glad its now available.

Jimmy Hoffa: Who's gonna be there?
Frank Sheehan: Everybody.
Jimmy Hoffa: Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, and Tony, huh?

It's very likely to get at least nominations, especially given the generally very strong reviews.

The risk with such an all star cast was that expectations ran ahead, and this seems to be the case here.

The Irishman was never going to be the rock and roll ride of his earlier films. Scorsese has recently made dynamic films, be Wolf of Wall Street or Departed, so he's well capable and it's fair to assume he's made his intended film with the Irishman.

That a more subdued, contemplative presentation has left some disappointed reflects unrealistic expectations. We're 2 decades past Casino etc - why anyone would expect the same type of film is puzzling.

The protagonists, especially Scorsese and RDN, were aiming for something less glamorous, and with the final coda, where death, family, and the consequences came home to roost, was the most interesting, and the one part of the film which distinguished itself from its predecessors.

Not that I thought it was a classic - had this been made 15 years ago, fewer would be asking "why now?", and in addition a cinema only release would have forced some pruning down to 3 hours.

But that aside, it was a very satisfying coda to the particular crime story that Scorsese has so excelled in.
 
Regarding the much criticized fight scene, I wonder, have you ever seen a real bar fight? Or competed in beginner level men's martial arts tournaments? De Niro's clumsy beat down does not look like the highly-choreographed visceral attacks typically on display in movies but it is closer to real life. Real people don't move like John Wick or Jason Statham.
 
As a Scorsese and deniro fan this was well up there as a great film. No it’s not goodfellas or casino it’s not trying to be. yes the narration from deniro this Is a film that will require repeat viewings. Casino was the same at first now that’s a classic.
 
So after watching it last night with a friend. I put the film on again for my Dad after lunch. I was going to leave him to it while I got on with chores around the house but I ended up sitting on the coach with him and watched it again :laugh:

I think a large part of that is purely the screen presence of the big 3. Its endlessly watchable.

Pacinos role as Hoffa and the plot grew on me this time round.

I tried to pay attention to the cinematography its really something else. The way he decides to shoot during a narration scene vs a normal one. O hope Marty's work is studied in courses all over the globe because it would be a travesty to not see this style of filmmaking live on. I dont want to be a grumpy old sod in 30 years time spouting "They dont make them like they used to".
 
Hmmm...I'm not sure what you mean. Gatekeeping?
 
Regarding the much criticized fight scene, I wonder, have you ever seen a real bar fight? Or competed in beginner level men's martial arts tournaments? De Niro's clumsy beat down does not look like the highly-choreographed visceral attacks typically on display in movies but it is closer to real life. Real people don't move like John Wick or Jason Statham.

Yeah Im not sure what your trying to say here. Deniro was supposed to be in his 30s/40s in this scene but when he stamped on him it looked like a 90 y old man touching him with his foot. We were expecting realism not John Wick. That scene would have worked soo much better if they had simply used a younger stunt man and filmed it from the back.
 
Yeah Im not sure what your trying to say here. Deniro was supposed to be in his 30s/40s in this scene but when he stamped on him it looked like a 90 y old man touching him with his foot. We were expecting realism not John Wick. That scene would have worked soo much better if they had simply used a younger stunt man and filmed it from the back.
No doubt you are right since the scene seems to be comical to so many people. However, something someone said made me wonder, we've seen so many Hollywood presentations of 'fighting' that maybe we've forgotten what real fights between real people look like. After I considered that, and remembering real fights, De Niro's attack didn't seem as cartoonish and that scene doesn't bother me as much now.
 
For me it was just really bad how light his "beating" was. They should have just used a younger stuntman and it would have been fine. That was one of the few scenes that bothered me with the age of Deniro.
 
Regarding the much criticized fight scene, I wonder, have you ever seen a real bar fight? Or competed in beginner level men's martial arts tournaments? De Niro's clumsy beat down does not look like the highly-choreographed visceral attacks typically on display in movies but it is closer to real life. Real people don't move like John Wick or Jason Statham.
Come on man, he could hardly lift his leg ! He also couldn’t stamp on his hand with any kind of force whatsoever. You don’t need to have seen real bar fights and martial arts comps to see how out of place it was.
 
I started to watch this again last night and I personally think its a masterpiece. Deniro will get an Oscar nomination for sure.
I do agree that the CGI wasn't the best but didn't take anything away from the film. This film was a Deniro project to start of with and has been in the making for over 12 years and I for sure am glad its now available.

Jimmy Hoffa: Who's gonna be there?
Frank Sheehan: Everybody.
Jimmy Hoffa: Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, and Tony, huh?

I expect Pacino and Pesci to get the best supporting actor nominations.
 
Cheers for the review Cas. I'm holding off watching this on my display as have an E9 OLED incoming and want to experience it in DV. I'm pretty sure I will like it in some fashion in regards to his other achievements and a genre that foes appeal to myself .

Interesting reading members views on this as the de aging is the marmite in this film that many can't get past or around and of course it run time . It seems if one can get past both then there is a cracker jack charecter driven film here .

This will be a test of sorts as Goodfellas and Casino are pretty much perfect for myself .
 
It's nature to prefer to moan rather than to praise. Every review I've read and listened to goes on about this de-aging stuff but I'm yet to hear appreciation over the old age makeup. Swings and roundabouts. If the de-aging if your biggest gripe then it goes to show how great of a film this is.

I just had a chat with my close circle and we agreed it's the best film we've seen this year from the big releases.
 
It's nature to prefer to moan rather than to praise. Every review I've read and listened to goes on about this de-aging stuff but I'm yet to hear appreciation over the old age makeup. Swings and roundabouts. If the de-aging if your biggest gripe then it goes to show how great of a film this is.

I just had a chat with my close circle and we agreed it's the best film we've seen this year from the big releases.

My biggest gripe it was too long. The de-aging stuff was fine although the younger versions looked like guys in their 40s than in their 30s.
 
I finished watching the film tonight, having started it last night. Too long? No way! It could have lasted an hour longer and Id have been happy. Loved seeing Pesci back in character as a mafia guy, and he played a great top man. Great acting by everyone. I don't have any problem with the de-aging thing. Overall a brilliant film, I was sad when it was over as I wanted it to carry on some more, and because its probably the last film we will ever see with these big name actors all together, and the last mafia film with any of them in.
 
I want to see them try to de-age Clint Eastwood :laugh:
 
No doubt you are right since the scene seems to be comical to so many people. However, something someone said made me wonder, we've seen so many Hollywood presentations of 'fighting' that maybe we've forgotten what real fights between real people look like. After I considered that, and remembering real fights, De Niro's attack didn't seem as cartoonish and that scene doesn't bother me as much now.
My expectation was simply for a forty-something Frank Sheeran to deliver his kicking with the same vigour as a forty-something Robert De Niro...

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