Netflix's 22 July Review & Comments

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    1. Casimir Harlow

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      Thanks Cas, might give this a go over the weekend.
       
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      Thanks Caz,

      I see there are 2 films out on this, the other mainly focusing on the massacre Utøya – July 22.

      I only watched Greengrasses 2002 film Bloody Sunday this year, like United 93, very well made.
      Glad he hasn't gone shakeycam crazy, while I love the Bourne films, the last offerings "realistic shake" really did annoy me.
       
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      Shaky cam, one of the worst ideas in modern cinema. Lazy.
       
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      I think the shakycam when used in moderation can really add to the realism, the second Bourne or a great example Saving Private Ryan really puts you there.
      But when used too much it actually takes you out of the film, far too distracting !
       
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      Because of the 'shaky cam' rubbish which Greengrass is infamous for & used to disastrous effect, I refuse to watch any of his so called work. He ruined all Bourne movies he was involved with which I'll never forgive him for. They should have left the franchise with Doug Liman, at least I'll have been able to watch all the movies without the projectile vomiting. When he had such large budgets at his disposal for these projects, why did he think 'hay, I know, I'll shoot this to look like it's been by an art student using an iPhone'! People may say, but the Bourne movies were popular, people loved the books & the interesting story line of the movie, so stuck with it, but in my humble opinion, execute very very poorly :(
       
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      Thanks for the review Cas,they are keeping you busy,will put on my to view list :)
       
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      I watched this the other day. It's good, and very difficult to watch. As was mentioned above, you definitely need to be in the right mood to watch this.
       
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      I saw a lot of this on NRK Norwegian TV at the time. A very accurate film and no 'Hollywood type' fabrications. Didn't notice the shaky camera work particularly. Just a very realistic portrayal of those horrific events and the aftermath.
       
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      Just finished watching this. It's certainly not a thriller, at least not after the first 30 minutes or so, it's a drama, and a tough watch. It's masterfully made of course, with Greengrass striking the right balance between the human side of things and the legal side. There's no forced emotion either, no sweeping score telling you how to feel. The cast is superb too and the Greengrass shaky cam is fortunately kept to a minimum.

      The Netflix take-over of entertainment continues.
       
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      If you dig a bit deeper you will find the film as more than a few Hollywood type fabrications especially on how it manipulates the actual testament of Viljar Hannsen and Breivik's actual verdict and sentence, I had a feeling it did when I wrote my thoughts on the film here.
      What I Watched Last Night In HD/UHD etc (Review).
       
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      Just watched this, it is a difficult watch which wasn't made any easier with a hangover. Not too proud to admit a tear did fall.
      I didn't notice the shaky cam and thought it was well made, the cast were really good with no over dramatisation (not sure if it's possible to over dramatise something this horrific).
      Netflix are starting to up their game.
       
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      Thanks for the heads up, Cas, and a tasteful, you need to watch this, style review.
      Will watch this weekend, though the last few years have felt like a 70's onslaught with terrorist films and TV - real or imagined.
       
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      So I gave this a go last night...
      After stumbling somewhat with Jason Bourne, Paul Greengrass is back to what he does best - dramatizing true life events (however uncomfortable the subject matter may be). It's the rare beast as far as Netflix is concerned - an all round quality film. It really is superbly put together with its thriller style 30 minute opening, before descending into the fallout from the whole thing longer term. The acting is excellent across the board, but Anders Danielson Lie who plays the lead role of Anders Breivik is the standout, and flat out chilling. He manages to maintain a difficult balance of also showing a more human (however messed up) principled side. Jonas Strand Gravli is also particularly good as schoolboy Viljar Hanssen dealing with both the physical and mental scars following the shooting.
      Given the grim narrative, it relies on keeping your interest for a very generous running time of some 2hours 20 minutes. No easy task.
      For those considering a viewing, it's most certainly a very tough watch in places. The first act in particular had me genuinely struggling to keep watching as the full horror unfolded onscreen. It pulls absolutely no punches, and has remained in my thoughts since.

      Bottom line - Strictly a watch once movie.
      8/10
       
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      I completely agree with your comments and Cas’ review.

      Excellent film.

      Telling that, until reading your comments I had not realised the lengthy running time which I think says it all.
       
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      I thought this was a fantastic film, intense, harrowing, terrifying and inspiring at the same time. Very difficult to make a movie like this without, in some way, glamorising the perpetrator, but this does a great job of showing us who the real heroes were. Sensible choice not to dwell too much on the details of the event, but showed enough to drive home the horror and shock of the attack.

      I followed the story at the time and know that the court case was far more complex than shown here, but while there were simplifications, they were only in the name of efficient story-telling.

      A very effective film that will stay with me for a quite a while.
       
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      7/10 for me.
      I would like to see the other film which I think concentrates more on the massacre.
      But this was very well made and showed the fallout of some of the survivors.
       
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      I think some people were disappointed that details of the actual attack were lost and that it all seemed to happen too fast and by all accounts the other movie, Utøya: July 22, is all about the attack itself. I thought it was pretty clear that we were skipping forward in time and they showed enough here to convey the horror and seriousness of the attack while leaving room to explore the aftermath and consequences. To me that is the more interesting story anyway, but by all accounts the other movie also a serious piece and not gratuitous survival-horror, so I am also curious to see it.
       

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