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    Just got a Sony AF9 TV and my initial thought was to upgrade the Netflix subscription to UHD. Before doing this I thought I'd try the normal HD with the new TV and the results are very impressive. My question therefore; is it worth paying the extra for the UHD subscription. The TV up scales to 4K and I know the proper 4k content will be better but will it be significantly better. Also the amount of content that 4k may be limited and I will end up watching a lot of films / shows that are only 1080P at best.
     
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    If I'm not mistaken, it's only a couple of quid extra per month, so it's definitely worth it.

    I'd argue it's probably not worth MORE than a couple of quid though! As you say, the Sony upscales most of Netflix's 'HD' content brilliantly (I have the AF8).

    Furthermore, UHD content is pretty limited. It's worth it though, definitely. Although i'd be wary of particularly dark Dolbyvision material. The built in app isn't quite right and can cause some pretty distracting pixelation, but anything bright via DV looks fab and 'all' of Netflix's UHD content looks pretty spot on.

    Worth doing. Not night and day, but you pretty much get your money's worth..
     
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    Thanks for that, the cost was not the issue, as you say its only a couple of quid. It was more the point that you get very little for you money.
    We as consumers spend without thinking about it and the likes of Netflix are happy to take our money without any qualms but they give us a "better" package.
    You know what I mean UHD mous be better than HD, I'm not sure that is so true.
     
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    I find 4k content on Netflix to be a revelation on my LG C8. Not the resolution so much as the HDR and WCG. Worth every penny and then some to me. I actually get a bit disappointed when something is only in HD now.

    Crown, Daredevil S3, Altered Carbon all look outstanding. Even my wife notices .
     
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    As above, yes it's worth it (to me). You need the UHD subscription for HDR. In terms of resolution gain, overall sharpness there's often not that much of a difference, especially as a lot of stuff is shot on film or digitally altered to look like film in post-processing.

    I'm pretty sure you can just drop down again after the month, if you decide it's not worth the extra for the better package.
     
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    Wowza. If a woman can notice, the difference must be big:rotfl:

    On a more serious matter, what size screen do you have and what viewing distance?
     
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    55 inch TV about 7 feet away from the screen
     
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    Exactly the same distance as me.
    It’s worth every penny. Improved bit rate, hardly any picture noise/macro blocking, and obviously more detail.
    Sony’s Dolby vision issues are the only thing I can’t comment on.
     
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    One thing for certain is that for the cost its worth a try.
    I only got the TV yesterday and was blown away by the picture quality. So much so that I thought "can it get any better".
    From the responses here the answer to that question is YES
     
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    55 inch, 5m away.

    In this hobby, the wife noticing ANYTHING performance related and not 'big ugly box' related = genuine performance upgrade. If she doesn't it just boys fiddling with their toys a bit differently... ;)
     
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    :eek:

    I’ve read previous comments that peeps cant tell the difference between 1080p and 2160p (4K) from 10ft on a 55”.

    I’ll see how my Blu Rays look from 10ft (my distance) when i get mine upon the wall.

    Only other thing i have (hence the question) is Netflix (TV License about to go). I’ll see how that looks before thinking about switching to their 4K offerings.
     
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    I read the same things by the same people, and almost convinced myself not to upgrade unless I could go to 65".

    They couldn't have been more wrong.

    The TV is a revelation and pound for pound the best AV gadget I have (check my signature for others - I have many...).

    65" probably would have been better right enough, but 55" is still brilliant. HDR and WCG make the difference remember, not 4k resolution.
     
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    Some HDR stuff is good, but in terms of resolution it’s hard to tell to the difference between 1080p and 4K most of the time.

    Probably because the C8 is so insanely good at upscaling. In fact I was watching some very low res videos ripped from DVD and I can not believe how good they look.

    One thing about Netflix though - not sure if this is down to the TV or Netflix, but when my connection is bad the resolution drops down (sometimes to 720p). ‘Normal’ Netflix never did, but that was via an Apple TV so it’s hard to say what’s going on.
     
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    Material is generally good if its recorded in 4K and HDR however there are offerings in Netflix and amazon that mention 4K but look no way near most probably upscaled and ehnce people say its not noticeable

    A good example is walking dead, Fox shows it in HD but they record it in a grainy picture format youd think it was SD

     
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    Just try it. You're not tied in. A few quid for a month and if you don't think it's worth it just downgrade.
     
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    Just do it already and get back to us with your findings! BTW, if you get the UHD Netflix you can share the account with some friends and family, that should cover several Christmas presents all at once. Nobody's going to be disappointed with free access to Netflix UHD as a present. My friend does this and 5 people all have their own profiles and access to his account.
     
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    To access the UHD features, can I use the netflix channel on Virginmedia's V6 box or do I have to use the UHD TV's Netflix app?
     
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    I have no idea about the Virgin box, but would expect if it's capable of 4k then it would be fine for netflix 4k. I use the Netflix app on my samsung js8000 or Roku SS+ or new 4k Now TV box.
     
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    I definitely notice a difference on a Sony A1. Dolby Vision appears to be a bit screwed though, particularly dark scenes
     
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    We have now upgraded to UHD and whilst the picture appears a bit sharper, the difference is not startling, this is along the lines of what I thought.
    I am sure that if the recorded material is good quality, (that is 4k) the final picture on the TV will also be very good. So much depends on the source material and as time goes on the amount of this will increase. As others have said, for the cost its probably worth doing but the increase in picture quality is not always great.
     
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    I think in general the move the 4K (even with HDR) is not as huge leap as SD/DVD to 1080p was. It is good, but the wow factor I had when buying my first full HD TV was (42” Panny Plasma and a blue ray, coming from DVDs and broadcast SD on a CRT). Sometimes I struggle to tell the difference between good 1080p and UHD (certainly on Sky Q). 4K really comes into its own with really big screens and 4K Blu-ray, IMO.

     
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    Nothing to worry. 8K should offer that dramatic DVD to Blu-ray upgrade. ;)
     
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    If you have 100” TV!
     
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    just watch lost in space on netflix in 4K and if that doesnt wow you then not sure what will
     
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    Will have a look when I get home, working away currently.
    I don't doubt that 4k when its done properly will look superb, I can see that whenever I get a 4k recorded film. My point was that the amount of 4k material on Netflix is limited and the question I originally asked was , is it worth it.
    As far as picture quality for material other than 4k is concerned the difference is marginal, in my opinion. The only question left therefore is how much 4k material is on Netflix and is the upgrade charge worth it. for the couple of quid difference the answer to that is probably yes.
     
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    Remember there are 4k non HDR titles on Netflix as well as 4k HDR/Dolby Vision titles. The 4k without HDR titles will not show a big leap from 1080p. The HDR/DV titles should be quite noticeably better.
     
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    Morning all. What broadband speed do you need for UHD? I can only get 23mbps on a good day.
     
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    no more than 16mbps on netflix. i think prime is the same.

     
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    That's good to know. Thanks you.
     
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    That should be fine. Anything about 10mbps and above will work. If you press ‘info’ it will show you the current quality/resolution and download speed in the top left corner of the screen. Handy feature I wish othered like Amazon used.
     

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