Netflix / Lovefilm = Neither

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  1. TheBlueRaja

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    So Netflix is coming to the UK as a competitor to Lovefilm.

    Great i thought a bit of competition maybe better services etc.

    Insead i see this over here:-

    Netflix UK will launch with Doctor Who, Top Gear and other BBC shows (Wired UK)

    So now we have two competing services (or at lease we soon will) but in order to watch, sorry stream, the moves i'd like to see i'd have to buy both services in order to watch all the films i'd like.

    Result = a good chance i'll get neither service as none of them offer what i want.

    When will these Film companies realize that by having exclusive arrangements they are limiting the viewing audience, reducing the reach of their films AND losing money as a result? :(

    Especially when the companies they create these agreements with are subscription based.

    I went from being interested in both to deciding not to get either.
     
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  2. kwebbotaurus

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    Is anyone subscribing to Lovefilm purely for streaming anyway?

    I know they've been advertising Lovefilm instant, but the streaming quality isn't worth paying for, I'd rather wait for the discs.
     
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    Been with LF about 7 years now, don't think I've ever streamed anything :)

    Unless Netflix offer a better deal (and include games) and sort out rentals of Universal titles, I'll be staying where I am.

    Still a bit of competition can't hurt.
     
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    I certainly won't be moving to Netflix if they only offer streaming. Tried Lovefilm's streaming and it appeared to be about Video-CD quality. Maybe ok on a laptop but not exactly great on a big TV.

    The big worry is that Lovefilm already have some studios they don't offer rentals for, so if Netflix start muscling in with exclusive deals it will dilute the service futher, giving the 'two services isn't better than one' scenario already mentioned.

    Not exactly a great solution for combating piracy, but maybe they care only about the money and not the customer service, knowing with SOPA and other anti-piracy solutions the big companies can lobby governments to try to force customers to accept poor services, as they'll be the only options.

    I wonder if the studios will eventually stop producing DVDs/Blu-rays if the streaming services offer them better deals. :rolleyes:
     
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    Streaming directly to my PS3 is attractive to me, and I was considering upgrading to the Lovefilm streaming only package, but it seems like you have limited choice, and poorer quality. I'd certainly lose my Blu-rays.
    Think I'll stick with receiving my films through the post for now.
     
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    We should be streaming decent quality movies to our tellys by now. I mean c'mon this is the 21st century. I want to turn my telly on and choose any film and press play. What is taking them do long? Technology can't be the issue.

    I've tried the love film app on my Xbox and its not good enough. I've seen 90% of the films that are on there.
     
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    I agree about the fact we should already have decent streaming.

    American Netflix is good, streams in HD with decent but not proper HD Dolby Digital audio.

    I'm more ****** off about LoveFilm taking ages to up their streaming quality. It's awful and as mentioned, not worth paying money for.
     
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    Netflix has launched in the UK today, haven't checked it out myself yet, but it does offer HD streaming & they have Universal films.
     
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    Just signed up for the 30 day trial and downloaded it quickly on me iPad, interface is decent just tried Reservoir Dogs and it looked great on the iPad. More time to play with it later.
     
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    Just signed up for the months trial with netflix - looks excellent, load of tv series I can catch up on and movies reasonably decent (although on first glance could do with some newer releases). Looks like decent value to £5.99 a month though.
     
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    Im very impressed. Im sure it's broadband dependant, but it works 100 better than when i was in the US

    Started my trial. For launch it's a decent collection. Seems it auto detects the quality for you and auto changes as it's streaming.

    Its also 1000 times better than Lovefilms dire effort.
     
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    Does it look decent on a big screen, I sub to LoveFilm as I want blu ray quality, it's a bonus I can stream.
    The PS3 stream quality is just less than dvd quality, it's fine as it's free, I would imagine looks better on smaller screens.
    Has anyone tried NetFlix on a projection screen?
    I know BBC Iplayer looks decent, as good as streaming is, it will be a while before I want physical media to go as the quality is just not there yet.
     
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    I find HD Streams as good as a TV broadcast in SD rather than a incredible HD Broadcast but still very very impressed. Our 7mb connection plays between a Medium SD and Medium HD stream.
     
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    If you go into your account settings you can set the quality, for those people that have Internet caps I have mine set to the highest quality.
     
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    For anyone with a Boxee box and VPN you can access the Netflix app and then log in with your uk details and stream The US collection ;-)

    Also works with IPad and VPN.
     
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    Signed up for the free trial and will be adding it to my iPhone and Samsung 40D6530... hopefully the quality is good but after reading around the subject it seems to be a good service.

    HOWEVER - notice that LOVEFiLM have reduced the "instant" package to just £4.99 to undercut Netflix by £1!!

    I would shift to LOVEFiLM on that basis, however I refuse to deal with them any more after they pulled their free trial from one of the most lucrative affiliate programmes I've ever been a part of! Lost a lot of people a lot of money!
     
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    The difference to me is the HD. Netflix is claiming to stream in HD. Lovefilm are not currently.

    Can anyone confirm this please?

    cheers
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    Anyone tried netflix on a ps3 yet?
     
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    Cant believe people on the web are complaining about the lack on Content. It only launched today.. Its going to get loads better. They've apparently got deals with BBC, Sony and Disney on the cards too.

    Im so impressed a just from a quick look they have the entire catalogue of 24, Heroes, Office USA, all in HD to stream. Movies are a little meh atm but for me it's going to be well worth £6 a month
     
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    Yes, quick try at luchtime and very impressed. Using wired 15mb connection streamed consistently at HD - good and upwards. Looks very impressive and DD5.1 sound also. It appears to adjust stream quality on the fly so would think unlikely to have problems with buffering/others using connection etc, although haven`t had time to properly test yet.
    Agree with prev comments, movies a bit lacklustre but TV series more than make up for it for me.
    FWIW also tried on Xbox 360, seemed a bit slower to buffer etc and interface less responsive, but quality pretty much on a par picture wise.
     
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    My concerns are:
    - is it HD? not too happy with Lovefilm's streaming quality. It's okay but I wouldn't pay for it
    - we'll have to see how the range of films pan out. Lovefilm is very basic and it's been around a while so I'm not gonna bank on the fact Netflix will expand their library significantly-- this may not happen.

    Where can I browse the collection without signing up?
    Edit: HERE although it still won't show the full selection.
     
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    Yes, the majority of content appears to be in available in HD, and looks pretty good to my eyes (although not quite blu-ray quality)
     
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    I've signed up to give it a go :thumbsup:

    1st experience is with the Android app (on HTC Sensation). Very good PQ but sound is out of sync
     
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    Signed up, so far the quality is 2/3 times better than Lovefilm but content is the real issue here. You have 8-9 studios and they're spilt into either Lovefilm or Netflix.
     
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    Does it have a subtitle option for those who need it?

    HummerUK
     
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    Yes, on most of the TV programmes and the couple of movies i`ve looked at so far.
     
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    Is there a list of TV shows available on Netflix anywhere?
     
  29. GloryHornet

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    Quality claimed to be Medium / SD on my PS3 - was really blocky and I wouldn't pay for that. Quality on PC is okay enough, quality on iPad is very good and I would probably watch that consistently.
     
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    I now have Netflix set up on my WDTV live, MacBook, iPhone, iPad and Xbox and the quality is very good.

    Make sure you go to your account settings and change it to high quality if you want a better picture, makes a big difference.

    Content wise it seems like a good start. They've got quite a few TV series like 24, Breaking Bad, Heroes and a decent amount of british content too.

    All in all I'm happy, though I think I'll hold on to my Lovefilm sub as well for now.
     

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