After a camcorder but not sure if there is anything that does what i am after. 1, will be used for in car shots on a suckered mount 2, needs to be small and portable 3, would prefer SD/Pro Duo as i think HDD/Mini DV will jump 4, will be used also for panoramic/landscape shots and be able to shoot things like fireworks would be nice 5, not bothered about HD, prefer decent quality 4:3 over HD 6, 400 quid MAX I have had 2 Sammy VP-X220L cameras, both second hand, both died in 2 days. I thought the external cam and on/off switch was fantastic but the quality was very so so. I I liked the idea of the Sanyo HD2 but worry over quality and it is kinda on my size limits. The Panny 150 is a consideration I really like the idea of the new Sanyo HD1000, some great features. Able to download onto external hard drive without a pc, 1080i, big bright screen, but i kinda need something now. I cant afford a seperate incar and home use cam setup.