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need advice on amp under £400

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by vileda, Jan 7, 2005.

  1. vileda

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    oK, I've been looking for an amp for the last 6 weeks and keep changing my mind, here are the spec's I need.

    1. MUST be Silver in colour
    2. Must have 2 or preferably 3 Component inputs & a component output
    3. MUST be no more than 385mm deep
    EDIT-- Now 405mm --EDIT

    4. must be under £400
    5. at least 5.1 with PL II

    Does anyone have any suggestions for a suitable amp?

    Vileda

    Oh and it has to sound good too :laugh:
     
  2. Tejstar

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    I have a Yamaha 750SE which does all the above except one, it's too fat for you! Dimensions: 435 x 171 x 420 mm
     
  3. Kazman

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    Finding something that is no more than 385mm deep of a decent quality is going be VERY difficult in my opinion. I have not seen anything matching that depth at the price point you state.
     
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    I think you'll struggle with this, why no leeway?
     
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    Hi vileda
    The nad t743 would suit your requirements and can be found at www.avland.co.uk.
    Cheers Gonzo. :)
    PS the nad amps do sound very good i used to own one,and dont worry about its stated watts per channel the amps in the nad are very powerful and can match a lot of budget amps stated at 100 watts per channel with all five channels driven.
     
  6. Kazman

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    Good spot Gonzo :)

    Yup, that NAD would be a good option, 350mm deep :eek: how did they chop that much off?!!??
     
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    you are going to struggle with the dimensions that you require, but have a look at the yamaha rxsl80. its is a slimline reveiver and the connections are slightly limited, but perfectly suitable for movies giving you 100watts through 5 speakers,
    hope this helps :thumbsup:
     
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    One thing I would be very careful about (although it might not affect you).

    Is, you need to add on to the depth the length of any plugs you will be connecting to the amp.... i.e. audio interconnects probably add another 40-50mm to the depth of the kit , if for example it needs to go back against a wall or fixed back cabinet.

    Again, it may not be an issue, but it certainly affected me recently when buying a shelving unit as I had to cut out a big whole in the back of it! The depth of the amp was fine but the cables pushed it out too far.
     
  9. Tejstar

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    Very good point - especially if you're using chunky cables!
     
  10. vileda

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    thanks for all the replies, Showed the NAD amp to the wife and got a resounding NO.

    The reason for a 385mm depth is that the amp is going into a chimney breast and was looking for a 'flush' finish.


    However I reckon I can get away with a small protusion so can go to 405mm (factored 25mm for leads).

    This opens things up a little and the Pioneer VSX D814 has got the approval asthetically (the HK AVR230 didn't :eek: )

    Is there anything else around at this new depth?

    Thanks again

    Vileda
     
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    Maratnz SR4500?
     
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    Without meaning to be difficult, you'll need more than 25mm for leads. A standard right-angled IEC power lead will come back about 35mm. :)
     
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    I'ts true... and if it's going to be closed you have to count the buttons, if it's going to be open you may discount the button depth...
     
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    Oops, I suppose that's another 10mm it'll have to stick out then.

    The marantz 4500 looks about right, I'll have a look into it.

    Thanks again.
    Vileda
     
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    I hope you're allowing a bit of room all round. Amps need room to breath as they can be easily overheated and switch themselves off.
     
  16. vileda

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    Loads of room at the sides and top, open front but a bit tight at the back (2.5").

    Arrrgh, the 4500 doesn't have lip sync/audio delay.

    Does anyone know if the Pioneer VSX D814 has an audio delay
     
  17. jasonuk

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    you can get the marantz 7400 for £350 from hiwaygroup
    bargain!!
    i just ordered one.
     
  18. vileda

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    nice one.

    Shame that 463mm is way too deep for me.


    If you had the choice between the following for use with a plasma which would you choose?

    Marantz 4500
    Harmon Kardon AVR 230
    Pioneer VSX D814

    Thanks.
    Vileda
     
  19. vileda

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    I really need to know within the next 48 hrs which will be best to use with a panny pwd7 plasma screen;
    Marantz 4500
    PIONEER d418
    HARMON KARDON AVR 230 (maybe not so ugly now!!!!!)
    or
    something else under £400 & less than 405mm deep
     
  20. Wasabi

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    Vileda,

    Unfortunately 814 doesn't have audio delay

    Wasabi
     
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    The marantz 5500 has Lyp sync/audio delay...
     
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    Vileda,

    if you require audio delay, less than 405mm and £400 then there is no amp that meets your requirements from what I can see. It does put you in a dilemma.

    H/K amps:
    AVR-230 - ca£400 in UK/ from £307+del from Germany - 382mm, no audio delay
    AVR-330 - ca£470 in UK/ from £398+del from Germany - 381mm, no audio delay
    AVR-430 - ca£640 in UK/ from £555+del from Germany - 435mm, has audio delay
    AVR-630 - ca£790 in UK/ from £642+del from Germany - 435mm, has audio delay

    Denon amps:
    AVR-1705 - ca£187 in UK - 417mm, no audio delay
    AVR-1905 - ca£230 in UK - 417mm, no audio delay
    AVR-2105 - ca£360 in UK - 416mm, no audio delay
    AVR-2805 - ca£520 in UK - 429mm, has audio delay
    AVR-3805 - ca£770 in UK - 429mm, has audio delay

    Marantz amps:
    SR-4500 - ca£330 in UK - 388mm, no audio delay
    SR-5500 - ca£380 in UK - 463mm, has audio delay
    SR-7400 - ca£400 in UK - 463mm, no audio delay
    SR-7500 - ca£700 in UK - 476mm, has audio delay

    Yamaha amps:
    RX-V450 - ca£228 in UK/ from £163+del from Germany - 416mm, has audio delay
    RX-V550 - ca£300 in UK/ from £205+del from Germany - 420mm, has audio delay
    RX-V650 - ca£288 in UK/ from £247+del from Germany - 420mm, has audio delay
    RX-V750/AX750 ca£376 in UK/ from £294+del from Germany - 420mm, has audio delay
    RX-V1500 - ca£555 in UK/ from £424+del from Germany - 434mm, has audio delay
    RX-V2500 - ca£719 in UK/ from £536+del from Germany - 434mm, has audio delay

    Pioneer amps:
    VSX-D714 - ca£197 in UK - 401mm, no audio delay
    VSX-D814 - ca£220 in UK - 401mm, no audio delay
    VSX-D1014 - ca£490 in UK/ from £418+del from Germany - 465mm, no audio delay
    VSX-D2014 - ca£650 in UK/ from £540+del from Germany - 401mm, has audio delay

    Onkyo amps:
    TX-SR502E - from £206+del from Germany - 376mm, no audio delay
    TX-SR602E - from £378+del from Germany - 432mm, no audio delay
    TX-SR702E - from £535+del from Germany - 432mm, no audio delay

    Panasonic SA-XR70 - ca£293 in UK - 376mm, no audio delay

    Sony, Panasonic, NAD, Cambridge doesn't have any audio delay amps

    Wasabi
     
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    You got a link on this one? I couldn't find hiway group :(
     
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    Is it this company? Can't find any 7400's though :confused:
     
  25. vileda

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    Thanks for the comprehensive reply.

    I may have to rethink this whole thing especially as the plasterer has managed to knock 40mm off of the width I can take (gap only 470mm now).

    I think i'm gonna go for the sr4500 though as it fits most of the criteria i need.

    Vileda
     
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    yes. thats the site.
    i cant find it either.
    maybe they've sold their last one.
    got an email from them, that mines been sent today.

    its worth calling them on the phone.
    their email support is not very good.
    took them a few days to answer a question.
     
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    it used to be under www.hiwaygroup.co.uk as well.
    but that site dont seem to work for some reason.
    same company though.
    ordered friday. sent today.
    pretty good speed. £350 inc. vat and delivery for the 7400.
    only in black though :(
    i wanted a silver to go with my tosh 46.
     

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