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Discussion in 'Photography Forums' started by mr jones, Aug 24, 2005.

  1. mr jones

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    hey hey


    i think i need to buy a new lens for my 20D to cover a larger range.

    ive got a wedding to do in a castle in a few weeks time and well obviously my **** 18-55mm aint gonna be enough.


    problem is that ive not got much money so i cant exactly afford L glass. this lens will only be a stop gap until which times as i can afford better stuff.

    anyone recommend anything from the canon/sigma/etc range?


    cheers guys! :lease:
     
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    Well having been looking at lenses for the last two weeks within a reasonable budget (ie. around £300) there seem to be three.

    1. 55mm - 200mm f4.5 - 5.6 = £200
    2. 28mm - 105mm f3.5 - 4.5 = £190
    3. 28mm - 135mm f3.5 - 5.6 = £375

    No 1 is averaging around £135, 2 is around £105 and 3 is around £250 all plus postage on ebay depending if you like to go that route. I got my 3 from there and am very happy with it.

    Hope that give some starting point.

    RB
     
  3. mr jones

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    the 28-135 seems more my thing but i can only go to about £250


    theres also a sigma of about the same length that goes down to f2.8 at the wide end, thats about the same price.


    are these lenses anygood?


    im not that keen on ebay really
     
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    could do with a bit more length than those i think seany, wouldnt see that much gain over the kit lens with them, although the f2.8 would be wonderful!
     
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    I wouldn't use my 28-135 for a wedding - its great when stopped down a bit but that really limits its usefulness. And, while the range is really handy, it just doesnt cut it image wise. If I was you i'd be buying for image quality rather than range.

    I'm sure Condyk uses a f2.8 Sigma - i'm sure he'll chip in with some advice

    The last wedding I shot (earlier this month) I used just my 20-40mm f2.8 and 85mm f1.8 - it was the first time i've used the 85mm on a job and I was suitably impressed with it. Got 2 wedding this coming weekend and again these will be my 2 main lenses - one on each camera.
     
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    The shots will be of better quality mate i guess is the main thing mate. That budget is really tight mate
     
  8. mr jones

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    yep i know, but i am unemployed at the moment
     
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    Do you want to lend my 85?
     
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    nah, i dont much like lending stuff off people, last time i lent someone my DV cam they dropped it, so im not best pleased, so i try not to borrow off folks.


    ill see how much i can get an 85mm prime on t'internet for


    do you recon that will be fine for candit stuff as im not the real photographer for outside, just the inside stuff (in the castle)

    heres the info my mate sent me about it
     
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    Yeah mate i'm not sure anything can match a prime for indoor available light

    Taken with my 85
    [​IMG]
     
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    damnit 85mm is out of stock at 7day shop

    anyone seen it cheaper anywhere?
     
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    Bunch of user reviews here if it helps any! no experience of it myself.

    Sean, love the colours in the shot above :thumbsup:
     
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    The 100 of no intersest?
     
  17. mr jones

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    im trying to way up wether the 100 would be too big a jump from the max 55mm of the other lens i have

    its gonna be double the 50mm.


    im having a think!
     
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    The 100 is said to be a nice portrait lens but the 85 is the first lens many would think of, and it was desiged to give that fantastic bokeh that is soooo good for portraits.

    As you know mate i have the 50 1.4 and the 85mm and the 50 does get used much more, but i always wonder why that is when i stick the 85 on as it's such a great lens. It is long mate with the crop for indoors the 100 would obviously be a little more still.

    But then the 100 is a great macro lens as well as a good portrait lens. I'd say buy the one that is best suited for the job you want it for. I'm guessing it's people, so i'd say get the 85
     
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    Thanks mate, the 85 really does make dreamy backgrounds.
     
  20. mr jones

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    thats what im thinking, seems rated so highly by people everywhere

    , gotta find one now, 7 day shop are out of stock :(
     
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    85 isnt out of my pricerange :D as long as i can find it at 7 day shop price elsewhere

    the f1.8 is also useful as i can use it at gigs as well due to the max apature
     
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    Hong Kong ebay sellers look like your only option at 7dayshop prices.
     
  24. seany

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    There is kerso on ebay who john and many on potn have bought from, you can pay on collection in yorkshire if can get there. He sends them to his mum over here. He's a really good trader. John has his contact details
     
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    or keep an eye out for a secondhand one. I picked mine up for £170.
     
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    Mr. Jones as you are going to be shooting indoors and in a castle you are definitely going to be shooting in low light and you wont be able nor will you always want to use a flash gun so you really are going to need some f/2.8 glass (or better).

    I do wedding photography semi professionally (It's not my main job but I run it as a business). When I first started out I thought I could just use my old lenses which where f/4 - f/5.6 but, although fine for outside, where utterly usless indoors.

    I now use:

    Canon 17-40 f/4 L USM - perfect for outdoor group shots
    Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 - perfect for indoor and outdoor shots and a damn site cheaper than the Canon equivalent
    Canon 70-200 f/2.8 L USM - Perfect for shots inside churches etc where you cant get too close to the B&G

    I would seriously recommend taking a look at the Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 lens as its the lens I tend to use most indoors (the 70-200 is often too long) and is very good quality. Failing that I would take a look at the Canon 50mm f/1.8 which you can pick up for around £70 and is incredibly fast and sharp and stupidly cheap. 50mm may seem a bit wide, which it is, but if you are able to get in close there arent many better lenses for candids indoors.

    HTH
     
  27. mr jones

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    i have a 50mm f1.8 at the moment, however i need something longer.


    i shoot in low light which is why im considering the 85mm as its a 1.8 lens and i can use it at gigs as well
     
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