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Need a Freeview Recording Solution - Newbie!

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by BenW, Aug 22, 2005.

  1. BenW

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    I'm looking at getting something to record from the tv as the vcr is near dead.

    Current setup:
    Philips 32" Widescreen with built in Freeview Tuner. (100Hz/Dolby Pro Logic etc)
    Philips DVD Player - Real basic thing, about 3 years old
    Panasonic VCR (About 7/8 years old - dying)

    So we have a collection of both videos and dvds. Because DVD is the growing standard rather than video we're not really wanting to spend the money on a new video recorder.

    So basically looking for a solution that will do the following:

    1. Record Freeview
    2. Record one freeview channel, watch another
    3. Allow us to watch our videos (Either from original video or DVD Copy)
    4. Cost around £300

    I've looked at various options, PVR with dual tuners, DVD Recorder, DVD Recorder with single freeview tuner.

    No idea what i need to get, please help!
    Many Thanks
    Ben
     
  2. Stenataar

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    Panasonic DMR EH60 will be out in September - it is a hard disc/dvd recorder with integrated freeview. I believe it will be about £450 though. It should allow you to watch one freeview channel via your TV (integrated tuner) and record a different freeview channel via the recorders integrated tuner. It is the one I am waiting for.
     
  3. BenW

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    So really all i need is a DVD Recorder with built in freeview?

    Then i've got 2 tuners. Would have like 2 tuners in the same box/same remote though.

    Are there any freeview tuners which have 2 tuners in the box but no hard drive?

    If there was then i could have 1 tuner for tv and 1 tuner for the DVD Recorder.
     
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    Does it have to be DVD?

    What about a PVR using a hard disk?
    These have a freeview tuner with built in hard disk.
    Some even have twin tuners allowing you to record and watch a diff progs at the same time or record two diff freeview channels at the same time.

    I have a Panasonic HDD/DVD Recorder (E100) and found the lack of freeview tuner frustrating especially when time-shifting, so I recently bought a Humax 8000T/80 which has a single tuner, 80 gig HD, 7 day epg, 'pause' rewind TV etc. The pic quality is better as it's direct digital stream and even records the programme info.
    The Pan (connected to NTL cable stb) doesn't even come close for just casual off air recording and is a bit redundant at the moment !

    More info on PVRs here...

    http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/pvr.html

    http://www.emsee.co.uk/pvr/

    Or go over the 'PVR' section in these forums.
     
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    But your TV already has its own Freeview tuner, doesn't it, so unless you want to record TWO Freeview channels while watching a THIRD, one more tuner is all you need (whatever box it's in).
     
  6. BenW

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    It doesn't have to be DVD but unless you can recommend another way of getting my videos onto DVD it looks like it'll have to be :(

    Niky, 1 in my tv and 1 in a DVDrecorder/PVR would be 2 ;)
     
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    But your TV already has its own Freeview tuner, doesn't it, so unless you want to record TWO Freeview channels while watching a THIRD, one more tuner is all you need (whatever box it's in).
     
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    Exactly, so why do you need a Freeview/PVR box with 2? :confused:
     
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    Its not needed, just a convinience thing. Would just be much neater with it all in the same box. Means the tv remote doesnt have to be used either...right?
     
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    Ah, gotcha :thumbsup:

    OTOH, operating 2 tuners from one remote might be harder than using 2 separate remotes?
     
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    Buy a Maxview 5-in-1 remote from Wilkinsons for about £14 and use it to control the important functions on all your kit.
    It takes a little while and some planning to set up (you have to set up a lot of the keys using 'learning' facility) but I have it working a Sony TV, Pioneer 420 HDD/DVD, Grundig Freeview STB (including 7-day EPG), and a Sanyo VCR.
    A 'macro' provides a one-key 2 min forward skip on the 420, and two presses of this work with most commercial breaks in recordings with surprising accuracy.
     
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    Or you could buy one of these all in one remotes that will operate both your TV and your recorder!
     
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    Guess we overlapped - lol
     
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    great minds think alike!
     
  15. BenW

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    Could do, tv remotes pretty battered now!

    So what do i need to record 1 channel and watch another whilst being able to backup vhs?

    1 DVD Recorder with built in Freeview Tuner?
     
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    I would have thought you could connect your old VCR up to your DVD recorder and copy your old videos. This would be easier with a hard disc recorder as you could copy your video on to the hard disc and do so basic editing before burning on to a DVD. I transfered my old videos by linking my VCR to my PC and copying to my computer hard drive. I then used Ulead Videostudio to edit/author and burn to disc. It was not that easy though and you do need a powerfull PC with appropriate capture card and large Hard disc.
     
  17. BenW

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    I'd do what you did (Copy to pc) but i'd only want to use the capture card for a few days before selling again.

    Is it right that there could be some issues with copying videos to DVD through a standard scart lead?
     
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    Sorry, I don't know about that.
     
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    i purchased a digifusion FRVT200 twin tuner and 80GB harddrive -
    watch one channel record another or record two channels.
    i also got a DVDwriter ES20 with digital tuner.
    the digifusion was only £175
    But the ES20 was £299 - but worth having a digital tuner - so much better quality.

    i love the flexibility of the FVRT200 - I have set up to record daily and various films over the weekend and do not have to worry about the size of the DVD or in tape.
    its great
     
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    Thats what i'd ideally have. Twin tuner PVR and DVD Recorder. Think its going to be outside the £300 budget though
     
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    i guess £300 is a bit tight - The fvrt is £179 at currys and johnlewis will price match - someone has already done that on this site
    so that leaves 121 for a dvdrecorder -
    i've seen the ES10 on the currys site webonly for 176.14 - so still 50quid over
    they do do recorders for 125 but know idea what they are like

    I heard john lewis was doing the FVRT100 at a very low price - has a 40GB HDD twin tuners
    http://www.fusiondigitec.com/fvrt100_one.htm

    maybe an option
     
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    Thanks, not on the john lewis website. They've got the 200 at £200

    So should i be looking at getting a pvr with dual tuners and a dvd recorder or just a dvd recorder with built in tuner?

    I guess the answer is really get the seperates if i can get it in budget?
     
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    i think a dvdrecorder with one tuner may be limited, but i dont know all the kit on the market.
    I just thought about the flexibility I wanted
    1) two tuners - so I can watch and record differet things
    2) Be able to set up programs in advance and not worry about space on tape or DVD

    so the Seperate HDD/tuner and DVDrecorder seemed to make sense as there is not a twin digital tuner/DVD/HDD on the market yet

    I can then record off the PVR onto a DVD for anything I want to keep rather than just time shift.
    anyway that was my purchasing choice.

    i guess with a TV with digital - then twin tuners maybe not such a big deal???
     
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    You could obtain the JVC DRM100SEK DVD recorder for £148-44 or the Panasonic DMRES10MR for £167 including free delivery (usually next day by City Link) from Digital-Point, Birmingham.
    http://www.digital-point.co.uk/dvd_recorders.php?ScrollAction=Page 1

    The Lite-on recorders are even cheaper but if you want DVD-RAM then the former are preferable.

    If you use the link click on the model illustration to bring up
    details and spec.
     
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    Thanks for the replies.

    I'm wondering if maybe just getting a vcr would be the easiest option. Its cheap, twin tuners and dont need to worry about backing up our videos.

    I guess i could set it up so we can record freeview too
     
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    You could spend half your budget on this
     
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    Kevo, I thinking of going for the HUMAX you have, just have a question for you:)

    How easy is it to get recordings off the Hard Disk to a PC? From what I've read it seems like the HDD is in a removable caddy. Can I remove the HDD and put it in my external drive caddy for my PC?

    What I'd like to be able to do is burn some stuff to disc ocasionally.
     

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