NAS to use with PS3 and Sonos

Brookes2002

Novice Member
Managed to sort it out now and have Sonos working in the lounge:clap:

I have to say though that the user guides provided by Sonos and Buffalo are not great. The Sonos PDF manual is out of date in comparison to the latest Buffalo set-up menus, and the Buffalo manual doesn't really cut the mustard either. If you combine the info provided on the Ripcaster website with snippets of the other two then you get there in the end. A little surpising given how easy a lot of people claim this process is, but neverthless, once the network sharing side of things is sorted, getting sonos to work is very easy. I mistakingly installed the buffalo software 'For use with a PC' whereas I should have installed the 'For use with a network'. I assumed you would have to do both, but ended up having to uninstall everything and start from scratch again using just the 'Network' software section. So far so good. My only slight glitch has been getting the Sonos controller to recognise my dining room Zoneplayer 100, which I have working wirelessly at the mo. I think I might buy another homeplug to see if that makes a difference, as it takes a long time to process the set-up when linking it to the controller. The manual also explains about interfernce from other wirless devices like cordless phones etc, so it may be that.

What has impressed me most is the difference in sound quality between FLAC and [email protected] I first ripped my songs about 9 years ago @128kbs and then reripped about 2 years ago to 320kbs, as that was the highest my I-River could support, but as soon as I played a FLAC file this afternoon even the missus commented on how much better it sounded. :smashin: The pain of reripping is hopefully worthwhile afterall!

Am now in the process of transferring all of the FLAC files over to the NAS from my HDD, which is proving a very slow process for my ageing PC:boring: I don't have enough space to have all my FLAC files on a single HDD, so want to put them all on the NAS and edit them if necessary there.
 

lazymatt

Novice Member
Sorry I didn't see your post earlier - I could have saved you some time.

There's no need to use any software to install the NAS - you just need to map the drive within XP and that's it. You can pretty much drag and drop your files after that.

Still, you've got it working now. The Sonos wireless signal is normally pretty good, so try changing channels before you go and invest in another home plug. And no, they don't work very well on extension blocks - best to plug them directly into the wall socket.
 

Brookes2002

Novice Member
Have just finished copying all my FLAC files onto the NAS drive and then imported into Media Monkey - all 100Gb of them. I took the plunge and purchased the gold edition just to save me the agro of constantly having to manually update the library with changes, as I suspect there will be lots of ammendments required to get all the final tagging issues resolved. Anyway, I have just imported into the Sonos library and am now sat on my sofa listening to songs I haven't heard in years! :thumbsup: I am thoroughly impressed with its functionality. Absolutely superb piece of kit. This is the best piece of my home cinema in terms of value for money. The TV is good with blue-ray via the PS3 but this is the boy. :smashin:
 

lazymatt

Novice Member
Glad you're liking it. I've used mine daily since I had it. It totally changes your listening habits.
 

Autopilot

Distinguished Member
The remote control itself looked cool (but it did feel a bit cheap and flimsey) and was easy to use (obviously with one hand rather than the two handed Sonos controller), the menu system again looked good, but the response time when queing up tracks and generally sifting through albums etc and then playing them did seem quite slow, which I thought was a bit lame considering I was standing right next to the wireless receiver. There were also lots of Sonos users in there looking with interest.
Thats odd - signal strength would really make any difference, it does not work like that, i can only assume any problems were due to a slow server and the fact that Slim Server and the Controller are still in beta - mine is nice and snappy.

But it raises a very valid point about Squeezecenter and the fact that it needs more horse power to run than previous versions - could be issues there for people.
 

Brookes2002

Novice Member
Sorry I didn't see your post earlier - I could have saved you some time.

There's no need to use any software to install the NAS - you just need to map the drive within XP and that's it. You can pretty much drag and drop your files after that.

Hi Lazy Matt,

How exactly should I have set up the networking side of things - as I was quite confused?

The reason I ask is because I am now trying to get my PS3 working via the Sonos to Buffalo network. When I look in the PS3 menu, it recognises 3 media servers. Is this normal, or have I buggered things up? Two of the servers show IP addresses (and the fact that they are linked to Sonos), whilst the third shows the serial name of the Buffalo drive i.e. the default share drive. When I copy and paste pictures into the default drive, it shows thumbnails of some of the images but then says the file is corrupt when I try to load it properly on screen.
 

Warpaint

Active Member
The PS3 will 'see' any Sonos zone players on your network. you will be able to browse the music, artists etc. but you will not be able to play them.
To stream info to the PS3 you will need to set up the PC-Cast options on the linkstation. Log in to the linkstation setup page, select PC-Cast, enable media servers and set the media folder to the folder you have set up to store pictures, movies etc.
You may need to shut down and restart the linkstation for this to function properly. Once it does all the subfolders of your media folder will also be available to the PS3.
 

Brookes2002

Novice Member
Thanks Warpaint. Got the PS3 side of things working now and have full access to all my pictures in the lounge. The wife will be pleased.....

Also bought another homeplug for the dining room and it sorted the problem straight away, instantly recognising a second zone. Plugged in a pair of my old MA R90s to the amp and was impressed by the sound reproduction.

I feel the end of my thread has arrived, but just wanted to thank everyone who contributed for their advice. :smashin:
 

Brookes2002

Novice Member
Why oh why did I speak so soon about closing the thread and not having any problems! Hopefully someone can advise me what to do cos I am now confused about what is happening. Everything was going so well too.

As I explained earlier in the thread, I have changed Broadband provider from Virgin to Sky, and I now seem to be experiencing signal drop-out i.e. the Sky Netgear router starts up OK and connection lasts for about 15 to 20 minutes but then seems to lose its network connection. It then says that my computer has limited or no network connectivity. I don't know why it is doing this, but the main problem is that it is confusing my Sonos system, as after the signal drops out, if I turn the Sonos remote controller on it displays the following message:

"Searching for Zoneplayers and Zonebridges. The network configuration for this controller has changed. For more info, go to http://faq.sonos.com/searchingH"

Needless to say the Sonos then doesnt work, which is annoying as its precisely why I wanted a Hard-wired system to avoid problems like this. :mad:

If I go in to the Buffalo NAS drive network menu (the IP address one) when the broadband connection has failed, sometimes it says it cannot find the drive and then sometimes it displays the content of the NAS as normal - adding to my confusion. It seems if I restart the router then the Sonos works OK, but it is still leaving me confused and annoyed. I don't know whether this is a set-up issue in terms of how I have created the network drive settings on the NAS, or whether it is due to the Broadband connection. If it is the latter then I am annoyed, because I thought the Sonos would work over the homeplug network independantly of the Broadband connection i.e. if Sky broadband wasn't working then Sonos should still work, as it just sends the signal via the router down the homeplugs!

Can someone please help me with this? I have gone to the Sonos faq webpage and it mentions something about the router not assigning IP addresses. Is this the likely issue? I have also got on the phone to Sky technical support, who have suggested the drop out might be due to an intermittant line connection - as they have gone through all the normal tests with me on the phone. But why should a problem with my phone line affect my Sonos system?
 

Warpaint

Active Member
The Sonos system relies on your router to allocate an IP address. Each device in the Sonos system (or any computer network) has to have a unique IP address so that data can be sent to and from the correct place.
If your router fails to allocate IP addresses then none of the Sonos devices can 'see' any of the other devices.
result: it won't work (even if hard wired).

You would appear to have a problem with your router.

It would be possible to set up a Sonos system which is independent of your router but then it wouldn't get internet radio or firmware upgrades and you wouldn't have access to the NAS from your computer. This would be a last resort system.

Do you have to use the router that SKY provide or can you use your own one?

I would definitely consider the router to be at fault.
 

Brookes2002

Novice Member
Hi Warpaint,

Thanks for your help. I have a Linksys wireless router which I could use, but the problem is the free one given with sky (Netgear DG834G) is locked and I think you have to hack into it to get the info I would need to setup the Linksys router. Or am I getting myself confused?
 

Warpaint

Active Member
I'm not familiar with the router that SKY supply, or it's settings.
If you can find out what the various settings are then you could use your previous router.

If not then you could set up a completely different network for your Sonos and NAS drive using the Linksys router. It would supply the neccessary IP addresses to all the devices and it would all work as an independent system. However, it wouldn't be connected to the internet or your computer, so all control would be from the hand-held controller. You would also need to disconnect the NAS and then reconnect to your computer to copy music (less than ideal!)

The best option would be to get a replacement router from SKY and if that still fails then find out the correct settings so you can use your Linksys.

Maybe someone else here can tell you more about the SKY setup.

EDIT: I did a quick google search and came up with this
http://www.skyuser.co.uk/forum/technical-discussion/1199-ive-done-flashed-router-got-my-sky-password.html
 

Brookes2002

Novice Member
Hi Warpaint.

I have managed to find a website with instructions on how to hack into the sky router and obtain your username and password, so now I have this info I can use an alternative router. I am going to see if there is a fault on the line first via the Sky tech help team and then if not, change the router to use my Linksys one.

Thanks for your help. If anyone else has any experience with Sky routers, any help would be much appreciated.
 

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