Ed Selley
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But does it make the Tea?
Another thing that irks me on most of the AVRs that are "missing" channels of amplification - give us fully assignable amps please! If I'm having to use an external amp, I'd much rather get a big stereo amp for the fronts and use the onboard channels for the .4
I have always found NAD to be very overated and from past experience would not buy another NAD product.
Extremely fugly app though, I find it almost offensive!I use the NAD one: "NAD A/V Remote", which added full support for the T777V3 in V1.18 about a month ago. Here it is on the store - on mine the Source numbers are replaced by the names I have given. Nice big volume On the Screen Display of the iPhone. And nothing in the way of the movie I am watching. View attachment 1011474
There's a 3rd party app on the Apple Store for a Ipad/Iphone display written by a member on AVSForumsI'm 90% set on Dirac Live for the next AVR, which raises the question - this or the AVR550? (or suck it up for the AVR850?)
The lack of a volume overlay is a huge black mark for me though, particularly if it doesn't seem especially loud at high volumes, given the AVR isn't in the room to provide a visual indicator :/
Another thing that irks me on most of the AVRs that are "missing" channels of amplification - give us fully assignable amps please! If I'm having to use an external amp, I'd much rather get a big stereo amp for the fronts and use the onboard channels for the .4
Having OSD with volume is essential when amp is not in line of sight and you have kids asleep
This.
I have some sound proofing in the movie room and it's an entire house away from kiddo's room, which means "loud" is okay, but it's too easy to cross over from "loud" to "way too loud", especially in films.
AVR is racked up in a cupboard next to the room, Harmony is doing remote duties so don't want to have to use a phone/tablet. Such a simple thing, but such a bummer that it's missing.
Some soundtracks are louder than others. Some have greater dynamic audio range than others. On some the dialogue is clear and others it is mumbling. Clinging to the number of dB displayed by the amp alone seems to me to pointless given all the other factors that vary. This whole OSD obsession seems to me to be a pointless excuse to find faults with an excellent product. We have visibility of the dB display on the amp and the app, but pay no attention to it (I use the app for on/off and source switching). We have a rule that the amp is turned right down at the end of a viewing session, and then adjusted up to a sensible level as a movie begins. "Sensible" depends on whether the kids are also watching, doing music practice or reading or asleep. We get cries to turn it up if they are watching!
My whole life revolves around numbers as an applied mathematician. I also know when they tell you absolutely nothing. This is one of those cases. (Just as I finished writing this the last post appeared - I agree fully - ads are often massively louder on TV.)
I agree it would be better if it had it.
My whole life revolves around numbers as an applied mathematician. I also know when they tell you absolutely nothing. This is one of those cases.
This whole OSD obsession seems to me to be a pointless excuse to find faults with an excellent product.
Lack of an OSD is a dealbreaker for some and not for othersSeems to be lots of mainly NAD owners defending it's omission. Personally I find the OSD very useful. I watch neither TV channels nor ads - with my own films, the streaming content I watch and games, the volume OSD is helpful in determining how loud loud will be for the duration of whatever content I'm watching - I don't want to be quickly reaching for the remote to knock it back when something blows up (by which time my daughter is already awake)
Lots of "buts", but this is all there is to it - some people might not find it useful, but some people do. Even if some people can live without it but don't realise it yet, it's not like we're talking about a feature that adds cost or development time - its omission is just a bit daft when it's something that can be on someone's "cons"list.
My life revolves around convincing someone they don't really want that feature that they think they want, working in technical sales - this is one of those features I do.
I'm 90% set on Dirac Live for the next AVR, which raises the question - this or the AVR550? (or suck it up for the AVR850?)
The lack of a volume overlay is a huge black mark for me though, particularly if it doesn't seem especially loud at high volumes, given the AVR isn't in the room to provide a visual indicator :/
Another thing that irks me on most of the AVRs that are "missing" channels of amplification - give us fully assignable amps please! If I'm having to use an external amp, I'd much rather get a big stereo amp for the fronts and use the onboard channels for the .4
I A/B'd a T758v3 and an AVR550 using an Arcam P-1000 power amp. No Dirac, just 2.0 - couldn't tell the differenceThe important question, it seems to me, is: if you're using both devices with external power amps, how does this device compare to the Arcam AVR390 (or the AVR550)?