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NAD T762 vs Denon 3803 vs Pio AX5

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by bbq, Sep 11, 2003.

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    I am about to spend my hard earned cash on a new Amp

    50:50 between music and watching movies on a plasma screen

    I originally was considering something like the 3803 for the conversion, but I will go with an external box for quality. I will of course still need 3+ component inputs

    Also - any ideas where I can audition the NAD.

    I am considering the Gallo speakers, but have not yet finished shortlisting them, so would be interested in suggestions for speakers too.

    thanks in advance
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    In my opinion I would definitly go to the NAD t762.
     
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    Considering your 50:50 split, I would second the NAD. Sounds much more powerful that it has a right to. NAD have even replaced those God-awful angular remotes!
    The Pioneer 2011 wasn't too hot with music when I listened to it (got a h/k 5500 at the time, which was much better), but for some reason movies had a "cinema" sheen to their sound. I haven't heard a musical Denon 380x series amp yet.

    Get the NAD.

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    thats 3-0-0
    Sounds pretty much like the NAD :)

    BUT

    Where can I get one??
    And is there any BLACK rather than off matt grey??

    Thanks
     
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    AV-Land , can't speak for their service as I've never dealt with them, but they list the NAD at least at £849.
     
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    Onkyo or Denon for me at the mo - Onkyo 701 is an absolute betler for movies but the 3803 has the s****y audio delay. I don't care about music though as I've got the Rotel taking care.
     
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    thats sw@nky
     
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    Denon 3803 gets my vote.
     
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    Votes are great... but any additional reason/explaination would be great too :)

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    To my ears it sounds the best. I've failed to be impressed by NAD HC Receiver performance yet...

    With Pioneer THX (Sub AX10i) amps they're superb with movies, but you need to biamp the front L/R channels to get a half-descent sound with music, so no 7 speaker options.

    The 3803 sounds great in seven speaker mode and great with music without biamped front channels. It's better built than the aforementioned and I prefer its aesthetics.
     
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    Thanks Dimmy!
    I realise everybody's ears/opinion differs slightly, but it is always interesting and useful to see what other people heard when they auditioned the amps

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    I Think if you search within other threads you will surely find some interesting NAD gear reviews by end users
     
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    3803 - vid upconversion and lip sync sold me
     
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    Gatto - indeed, but to my ears they're not the best receivers in their price classes :)
     
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    Thats why there are several brands to choose from Dimmy.

    One of the main reasons I have choose NAd is that my current speakers within my setup are 4 ohms load. The T762 can easily drive these speakers with ease even at high reference levels
    for long periods.
     
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    Hi All
    You will also find threads were some of the folks on this forum have demoed the nad t752 side by side with the denon 3803 the nad to there ears was much better in stereo(and mine) and as good in movie mode the hifi store that did the demo had sold all there stock of nads due to the comparison.As for build quality the nad is every bit as solidly built as the denon imo.
    In the near future i will be upgrading my receiver but i will still defend the nad as for the money the build and sound quality is as good if not better than any similar priced unit .
    Cheers Gonzo;)
     
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    Absolutely. NAD is something of an unsung hero in the AV Amp arena, or at least on these forums. Every time I have heard a NAD AV amp, I have thought them musical and powerful beyond most of the competition, save perhaps harman/kardon. Frankly I am staggered if people think that a Denon 380x receiver or Pioneer 2011 is the match of a comparably priced NAD model musically. For AV use NAD sounds different to the competition; not as visceral as a Denon or Pioneer but rather a more restrained, hifi sound. Like an iron fist in a velvet glove, so to speak.

    Russell
     
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    Hmm I have auditioned Pioneer, Denon and Onkyo but not NAD but one thing I learnt is a shop audition is not nearly as good as the home it took me a good few hours (well a whole day) to get everything just right. I brought the Pioneer and stereo is just great in 5 ch. I listen to Jazz, classics and R&B so bass and hi's included. The Pioneer just needs time to work out what you want e.g. Bi-amped, speaker settings, delays, etc once it's done and you have good front 3 speakers your laughing.
     
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    Don't think NAD have the lead in processing, I think that goes to denon. Video upsampling and lip synch were great for me, really improved the picture.

    Nice clean sound from 2011, and if you can get one, they're probably the best value for money, as they're fully loaded - namely thx ultra and MACCACC something to simply/improve set-up.

    NAD, hmm, guess you need to listen.
     
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    Bonesy,
    What do you mean by leading processing?
     
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    People do get hung up on processing, and frankly, I don't know why. The processing contained within an amp is not that important. Some of the best AV processors use what could be considered out dated decoding chipsets. However, they sound fantastic because of how the product has been made. NAD concentrate on getting the basic requirement of sound quality right and if an amp sounds good, then the decoders/DAC's inside don't really matter.
    Video upsampling can be useful for some. Though not all, or possibly most, people will se the benefit of this. The same could be said for lip synch.
    Surely, what matters in how an amp sounds?

    Russell
     

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