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Discussion in 'Televisions' started by Patriarch, May 6, 2003.

  1. Patriarch

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    Is Scart and RBG the same? I have my DVD connected via scart, and set the DVD to RBG... is that all? or does it require a special SCART?

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  2. Spunky

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    Your T.V. will need to be able to accept an RGB signal comming into it. This is normally stated in you t.v. manual, and the scart it goes into needs to be enabled (usually the first scart).
    The DVD player also has to be set up for RGB output.
    If the t.v doesn't support RGB, then it will automatically change the input into either s-video, or composite, depending on the t.v.
    Hope it helps

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    ok... TV takes RBG for sure. But when I use my XBOX with the advanced RBG cable, the TV says "RBG" sortly.. if I set my DVD to RBG outbut and but it in the same EXT as the XBOX was it says "y/c"

    Also, when I set output from DVD to RBG I get some strange "jaggies", which I dont get when set to OFF
     
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    Strange, the RGB shouldn't produce jaggies (not talking about Prog scan jaggies), i take it you mean theres a diagonal scroll on bight colours and in interactive menu type things.
    This sounds like its not outputting RGB when its on, instead going into composite. hmmmm....
    What sort of DVD player and T.V. are they, also what sort of cable is connecting the two, is it a generic scart that came with them or is it a fully shielded OFC one.
    I 'THINK' the scart must be fully wired for RGB- someone correct me if i'm worng on this.
    Cheers

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    first,... what is fully wired in regards to a SCART?

    Its a 32 inch philips 8807, and some cheap DVD player. The jaggies im talking about is this: When I turnm on the DVD player it displays a blue screen with Yellow DVD on it. The DVD has a slightly fuzzy edge, where as when I turn RGB to "off" it displays each letter very finely. Make sense?
     
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    If the TV says y/c then I'm pretty sure it's seeing a composite signal.
    Assuming that your using the same scart socket on the TV for XBox & DVD, I would suspect that the SCART cable you've got for the DVD is a composite one. Did it come free with the player by any chance?
     
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    hmm.. cant remember where i got it from I'm afraid... but I counted, and its a 21pin SCART... this should mean its RGB right?
     
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    Not necesarily. Although the plugs on each end have 21 pins, are they all connected?
     
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    all connected? what do you mean? how can they not be?
     
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    also... whats the difference between CVBS and Y/C?
     
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    They may not have wires soldered to all of those pins.

    CVBS = composite
    Y/C = S-Video

    Sorry for the duff info before.
     
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    Personally i don't know about the CVBS and Y/C but it definately sound like the scarts not fully wired.
    It might look like all the pins are there on both ends, but inside they won't be wired up- usually a cheap trick they do when they sell you a dvd player, thinking you wont know any better.
    The best thing to do is to get a fully wired one. If you've got any spare lying around it might be best trying with one of those, also see if they look thicker.
    If this is the cas and the jaggies stop, then it'll be off to the shop tp buy a new scart lead.
    Another thing to check is that you haven't got a setting saying NTSC switched on.

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    Doh, two posts while i was writing
     
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    hehe-... thanks all.. Ill try get a new SCART, and see what happens
     
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    ok, got a new SCART.. nothing changed... ok.. hold on to your hats, cuz this is weird. I get the best picture by using the EXT2 in the TV which has no RGB, and then setting the DVD output to "OFF"... how weird is that? I really dont get it... i still get these scrolling vertical jaggies on the text... especialy when bright colors are displayed. I thought it might have been due to having too much color in my settings, but since it appears perfect using the method explained above, I guess that isent it...

    ideas?
     
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    Where did you get the new scart from????

    What make/model is the DVD player?
     
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    You may be using S-video(accepted by EXT2) nearly as good as RGB, Now if you are sure that the scart is fully wired and the TV accedpts RGB have you tried playing with the DVD setup menu? If you are happy with the PQ on ext then stick with it mate other wise I would need to be there and Fiddle in person too work it out, if you have another TV in the house try the DVD on that see if it a wierd TV thing.
     
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    hey.. the DVD is a Denver.. some cheap ass DVD player, but overall im pretty happy with it. I just dont get it... CVBS (or whatever) and RBG look the exact same...
     
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    They shouldn't mate RGB should be less harsh and more natural, Composite is buzzy and fake looking, But if your happy your happy, try a friends if you can see if it makes a difference!
     
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    if I get the time ill make a little video of it :D
     
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    Is it possible that the DVD player won't do RGB???

    and where did you get the new scart cable??
     
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    It is possible, some cheaper DVD players have S-video and composite only, no way too tell unless its in the manual!
     
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    hmmm.. the DVD menu "alows" me to output RGB... atleast it gives me the option. The new SCART was bought in a hifi store.. I explained him what I needed.. a SCART that is capable of RGB
     

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