My 'PS360' controller

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  1. LeeUK

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    I couldn't bear the PS3 dualshock / sixaxis controller any longer, so decided to fit a PS3 dualshock into an Xbox 360 wireless controller. A similar pad has been made before by Ben Heck using a non-rumble PS3 sixaxis controller, but with no disrespect to his fine work I wasn't keen on the method he used. His 'ps360' pad was made by removing the 360 controllers PCB and replacing it with a modified PS3 one, gluing tact switches into place underneath buttons etc, and attaching the thumbsticks with perfboard hot-glued in place. I didn't think this would be very strong or durable and I also didnt want to cut away thumbstick guides etc as I didnt think it'd end up 'feeling' anything like a 360 pad.
    So I set about dismantling the two pads, to see how else this can be done. After some measuring and guestimating I was fairly sure I could leave the existing 360 board in place with some modifications, and get a cut-down PS3 board in there too - that way I can use all of the existing 360 buttons, sticks, triggers etc and everything will 'feel' like it does out of the factory.

    The two 'test' controllers
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    The two controller boards: (those with a keen eye will notice this is a sixaxis board and not a dualshock one. As this was just a testing stage I was playing around with a dead 360 and sixaxis board, as I didn't want to damage the 'real' boards I would be using later!)
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    Removing non-essential bits from the 360 board:
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    Trimming the 360's LT/RT trigger support frames, and test-fitting the PS3 board:
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    About two thirds of the wiring complete:
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    All wiring complete, the more powerful 360 rumble motors attached to the dualshock board:
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    All wiring complete, fitted into the front of the 360 controller shell:
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    Shaving the inside rear 360 controller casing for a good fit:
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    Plugging in the PS3 battery:
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    The completed controller:
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    The pad works exactly as expected, including all tilt/movement controls, the ring-of-light to indicate controller/player number, analogue triggers and charging etc. Charging is done through the Xbox play and charge port on top of the pad (I didn't want PS3 pads mini-usb poking through somewhere looking out of place!).

    A quick clip of the controller playing Killzone 2 (rather badly, trying to play through the video recording means a second or so delay :D) For some reason though youtube keeps rotating the video :(
    [youtube]VCHo1CiYFjg[/youtube]
     
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    This is fantastic, i also hate the PS3 pad so will be looking to do someting similar.

    Ive got to ask.... would you be willing to build me one as this looks a little too complicated for me, i have the tools and have a lot of experience with soldering BUT knowing what to solder where is a different story. Obviously i would provide the pads.
     
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    wanna make one for me :D

    Really impressed :smashin: well done mate
     
  4. LeeUK

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    Its an insane amount of work, the hours put into it would mean the cost in terms of labour would probably make it not worth while unless someone really wanted one :(
    Unfortunately its not just as simple as linking the two boards up, there were plenty of obstacles to overcome, things like the fact that sony now use two new types of 4-pin potentiometer per analogue stick and the 360 board has 3-pin pots, yet the PS3 stick mechanisms to which they attach cant be used as they dont physically fit the 360 board. The PS3 board had to be cut down to size with a dremel to fit in the tight space, every button and contact on the 360 board had to be followed through a maze of vias and traces so that it could be cut at the right point to isolate that button etc. Then theres the fact that there are so far 7 different models of PS3 controller PCB (sixaxis and dualshock 3), and 4 different 360 ones (2 wireless 2 wired)!
     
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    I'll take that as a NO then, sounds like a lot of work :( If i was to be doing all that i'd expect at least £100 labour and then theres the cost of the pads on top, i'm not that desperate to play any games on my PS3 :devil:

    Might just have to get one of these

    http://www.xcmlive.com/cgi-bin/xcmlive/engine.pl?function=viewid&id=RKS000165

    but then i wonder about the parts of games that require you to use the motion control
     
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    wow, you really need to launch a business, i think there would be a lot of demand for those.
     
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    Well done mate top work. :smashin:
     
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    Good work there Lee. I'm really impressed :thumbsup:
     
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    Very good work there :thumbsup:, just wish somebody would make a Third Party Controller for the Ps3 that looks and feels like a 360 controller. I am sure they would sell well.
     
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    Has anyone tried the XMB cross battle adaptor which allows a wired 360 controller to work with the PS3. No dualshock etc but they work fine.
     
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    This is brilliant, nice work.
     
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    Thats awesome and something i very much want and need lol i hate the DS3, please make me one lol :thumbsup: well done mate
     
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    incredible, I suspect you're going to get a lot of pm's from members and lurkers alike.

    After completing a couple of fightstick mod jobs I can understand how much work goes into wiring, you're obviously really talented at it - great work :thumbsup:
     
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    SO impressive!!

    I'm fretting out about modding a ps2 wired controller into an arcade stick, and thats nothing compared to this.

    Absolutely amazed mate!! Nice one!!
     
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    would still be cheaper than the alternative which he wants $700 for!! The OP could massively undercut him yet still make it totally worth his while and make a killing to boot :eek:

    Just out fo curiosity would the DS3 buttons not fit in the 360 shell or is it not as simple as a straight swap?
     
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    That's amazing work! Well done!
     
  17. LeeUK

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    Thanks again for all the kind commends :)
    Replacing the buttons with the PS buttons (triangle square etc) is fairly easy to do with a little bit of modification to both sets of buttons (the DS3 buttons are shorter, so would need to cut the 360 buttons and replace the top half with the DS3 buttons which would also require a little shaving down in terms of width at the base) but the 360 buttons are 'shaped' to the curve of the controller whereas the PS3 buttons are just flat so they wont look or feel as good. Entirely possible though!
     
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    Fantastic Lee, I'm envious of your skills though. Much as I'd love to be able to do something like this, I'm all fingers and thumbs:)
     
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    Not to knock your amaizing work mate but to me that seems like a lot of effort for a controller, surley it cant be that bad?? Iv never had a problem using either pad, just wondering what it is so bad with the playstation pad? Does everyone have giant hands or something?:rolleyes:
     
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    well done, looks great, BUT you swapped a perfectly good d-pad for the microsoft one! how are you gonna play SFIV now?!
     
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    At times like these i feel so inadequate in the "me man, i make things" department.
    Top job there mate, looks the business.
     
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    Wow, some people really do have too much time on their hands.
     
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    Nothing positive to say for all Lee's hard work and skill then? Hmm, wonder why that is, let me think:thumbsdow:

    Get back under your bridge with Baldy :)
     
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    I am still waiting as are a fair few gamers waiting for a manufacturer to bring out a xbox 360 style pad to work with the ps3 with six-axis control.


    Fair play to Lee for making his own. :thumbsup:
     
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    Great skills, top bit of work.

    The arkward breeze block controller isn't my bag, but that doesnt take away from the time, effort and care taken to modify this.
     
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    Now thats impressive. I would love one of those on my ps3
     
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    i was a keen 360 player till recently, know i have the new ps3 slim, i must say, it pretty good. The only issue for me was the controller for ps3, i found it was light, flimsy, buttons to close and a bit fiddley (joysticks), after some serious gameplay, i have become fairly adjusted with the ps3 contoller, however, i still prefer the 360 pad.

    Anyhow, after some hard researching into finding a 360 pad that will work on ps3, i found many, i.e. Ben, Hack, which i found to be a lot of work, then there was the XCM Cross Battle adaptor, the problem was finding a cheap wired 360 pad, which are about £20, if you look around and lucky and the adpter is about £35 - £50+, which was a bit dear for me, then i found this
    Saitek PS2700 3-in-1 Rumble Pad (PS3) :smashin: on amazon, what a pad, its brill, its very similar to 360 pad and d-pad and joystick can be turned around, if you prefer the 360 pad to the ps3 then its a must buy at £24.00, check out Saitek's website on PC Gaming - PC Game pads

     
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    That pad is the nuts mate - You Tha Man!!!
     
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    Wow, thats impressive:thumbsup:

    one question though.. is the PS3 pad really that bad? and is the Xbox really that much better?
     

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