Question My MacBook is filling up. NAS or iCloud?

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  1. tom 2000

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    I don't know what I need. Time Thingy? External Hard Drive? Cloud storage and optimise lap top?
    Please help. I use my Mac for video clips of horses and simple editing. I have no back up in place for it. All my business stuff is on Microsoft One Drive.
     
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    You could create a dropbox account and just drag your video clips across, that way you'd be protected from hard drive failure and losing the clips
     
  3. tom 2000

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    I suppose I could use my OneDrive account also but surely that maintains a duplicate copy, which is good, but doesn't solve the problem of my MacBook filling up to near capacity.
     
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    If it was me i'd save anything i really didn't want to ever lose onto dropbox / onedrive and other less sensitive date onto a portable hard drive
     
  5. tom 2000

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    I have just installed OneDrive on the Mac. I have a big storage plan there bought through the business and it will do as an automatic backup. The storage on the Mac has a way to go yet as I had a clear out.
     
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    I guess it depends on when and how you wish to access the content - assuming you also have to do presentations.

    I do the odd video edit for various Groups I work/volunteer with and keep my 'local' copy of the edit and finished work on an external G-Technology Firewire drive with a backup on DropBox.

    I found the folk at Jigsaw24 very helpful when deciding on what would work best for me - G-Technology | Jigsaw24

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  7. tom 2000

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    Its all personal stuff and mostly accessed from my own home. The way I organise my work stuff is to open a new folder each calendar year and OneDrive everything. To be honest I find the Mac less intuitive as regards folder structure. Ideally I suppose an external storage system so I am not reliant on the internet for retrieval but also having that drive copied in the cloud.
     
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    I also say it might depend on the size of the files and your upload speed. if its crappy, it'll could take days to upload, so NAS is your better bet.

    If you have good speed then cloud storage is best and they have far better data loss protection than you will.
     
  9. tom 2000

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    I have reasonable upload speed in terms of conventional BB. I suppose I should Google iCloud as my issue is Mac specific. It may be better at optimising space on the machine than OneDrive.
     
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    Dealing with a lot of unknowns here.

    What model of MacBook? Can you increase its storage?

    What capacity of HDD or SSD does it currently have and how much free space remains?

    Why the heck aren’t you already backing it up? Time machine comes free with MacOS, it’s great software, use with a portable USB hard drive. 1, 2 or 4TB drives are all blooming cheap and regular time machine backups let you, as the name implies, not only do a full restore but also recover a single file or earlier revision of a file.

    NAS solutions are great for multiple jobs, perhaps overkill JUST for a backup solution though. If the other features are useful though, Time machine can also back to a NAS share and if it’s on your network you can set it to do that automatically whenever your MacBooks on the network (that’s how I back up, with a portable USB as secondary backup drive from Time machine too).

    Cloud is good too but for redundancy of data you are likely best served with a combo of cloud AND local backup solution/s.
     
  11. tom 2000

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    It’s a MacBook Pro about 3 years old. 250 Gb of which 50 Gb remains after a clear out about a year ago. Why am I not backing up? Well because I have never had anything to back up on to and I didn’t have anything important stored. Suddenly there is a machine full of stuff. The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
     
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    HERETIC! - the Mac fanboys will be round to tar and feather you and stuff dog dirt through your letter box for daring to suggest anything about a Mac isn't the most wonderful thing in the world, (after Hyperloop.) :D

    Joking aside, fundamentally, if your disc is full then the only solution is to make it less full (delete something) or fit a bigger disc, (if possible, and you've got to port all the data across.)

    Into the mix alongside the suggestions of others, you might consider archiving anything that you are unlikely to need again onto optical media (CD/DVD/Blu-Ray) though that isn't without risk as there are stories of optical media that "go off" over time and become corrupted.
     
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    You need a solution like this:
    • NAS for local network storage.
    • USB HDD connected to the NAS for scheduled local backups.
    • Offsite scheduled secondary backups via cloud service.
    At least two backups (i.e. 3 copies total) in separate physical locations is the only way to ensure your data is safe.
     
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    So how do I achieve that? In order to avoid clutter I’m thing a 2Tb device connected to a network switch in attic. To be used as external storage and local backup. That drive would need to back itself up to the cloud. Furthermore you suggest another drive attached to that presumably as a safeguard against mechanical failure.
     
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    I tried saving Mac files to OneDrive but it brought up so many errors I cancelled the process. There seems to be file naming issues. Files can be saved on Mac that are named containing * symbol for instance and OneDrive will not accept these.
    I still don't know or understand if I can connect a Time Capsule to my Home Network or even if there is any benefit in connecting it by Ethernet and still have not found a comprehensive Cloud Backup answer.
     
  16. tom 2000

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    The reason I tried OneDrive is because I have 1Tb storage there that is seriously underused.
     
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    Time Capsule on its way. I am trying to expand my use of iCloud Storage but the upload rate is pathetic. I started with about 90Gb to upload. The first day I achieved about 6Gb. Over 12 hours last night a dismal 600MB.
     
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    Unless your MBP is sealed, the easiest thing in the world is to swap your HDD for a much larger model. A separate USB HDD Dock (£20) enables transfer of your existing HDD’s contents to your newly inserted MBP HDD.

    Even if your existing 250GB HDD is a PCI-e blade SSD, a 1TB replacement PCI-e blade SSD is even easier to swap-out. In this situation, you would first need to transfer you existing data to an external USB HDD first, then back to the replacement/internal PCI-e SSD.
     
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    What do I have?
    APPLE SSD SM0256G:



    Capacity: 251 GB (251,000,193,024 bytes)

    Model: APPLE SSD SM0256G

    Revision: BXW1PA0Q
     
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    That’s a Samsung PCI-e SSD blade.

    You need to open ‘About this Mac’ from the Apple iPad icon menu to ascertain the precise MBP model.

    On Amazon, £14 buys you a 256GB pendrive for transferring your existing SSD’s contents.
     
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    MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015)
     
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    Before you even think about tackling this task, buy yourself a precision computer/screwdriver set - preferably one that contains torx heads...

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/NewerTech-...1534797067&sr=8-1&keywords=Newertech+tool+kit

    These are the necessary steps in replacing the drive...

    MacBook Pro 13" Retina Display Early 2015 SSD Replacement

    A replacement 1TB PCI-e Samsung drive from Amazon...

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-V-...8&qid=1534796872&sr=8-2&keywords=pcie+ssd+1tb

    Be sure of your own capabilities in undertaking this task at your own risk.
     
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    I will have a read and look see. What could go wrong
     
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    I think it is much better to separate backup from, a full hard drive and having separate storage. For backup yes use a time machine, but that has nothing to do with freeing up storage.

    The question is what you do with the big files, do you need to access them, or is it a case that you edit, publish and then don't need to touch the originals but want to keep them and archive them. Similarly for other files.

    For that purpose I would have a local NAS. Something like a Synology which can also double as a time machine server. And set it up as a local network drive and simply move your big video projects to there. When connected via a gigabit network that will be pretty fast. Not fast enough to work, but you can just move finished projects, and copy old ones back.

    Then setup your NAS to make an cloud copy as well for backup purposes.
     
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    In the absence of knowing anything different I have a Time Capsule on the way for Back Up. With some ruthless pruning I have freed up space on the Mac. My iCloud upload has taken a spurt with about 20GB transferred in the last 24 hours. With that all operational the minimum standard will have been met. I am learning a lot here.
     

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