My House Build,, a long story....

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    New Year, a new start, a warning this thread may take some time to complete!!!!

    I was determined to start this thread a year ago but with so little time and lack of effort on my part I never acomplished this hence my efforts to change my ways this year !!

    Several people I know have shown an interest and im determined now to keep some sort of record of the highs and lows involved, so if you have the patience then sit back and enjoy the ride.

    A year ago after a long drawn out planning process taking at least 2 years (something Ive learnt to be expected) work began on our new property.
    The plot is encompassed within our own land we purchased a detached bungalow around 10 years ago on roughly an acre site, half the land was a small paddock which we used for chickens and the like, after several complaints from our neighbours about chicken noise!!! we decided to look at alternative uses for the land and hence our journey began.

    I should add that apart from renovating a couple of our houses and a pub we once owned, I have no real knowledge of house building my plan is to project manage help where I can and get individual trades in as and when they can be afforded, needless to say my steep learning curve began in earnest.

    It was the 27th of January 2016 to be precise that the diggers moved in to start phase one of the project the ground works, there was a huge amount of groundworks involved as the site is on a pretty severe slope with no mains drainage, let the levelling begin!!

    A couple of pics of the site as it was last January, wet as usual down here in Devon!!
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    Bottom of site, my previous veg patch
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    Ok the journey has begun, let me sort through some pictures and post 2 will arrive soon if I havent sent you to sleep already,,,,,,
     
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    So Jan 16 the plant arrived and work began, short winter days were not holding back the work headlights were in use and soon the levelling and terracing began.

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    There was a fair bit of earth moving as can be seen in addition we had to run a new water pipe to nearest main around 150 metres away, private drainage system, new phone cables and electrics.
     
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    Looking forward to seeing this develop.
     
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    Following with interest :)
     
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    How exciting! Can't wait for further instalments.
     
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    Sorry so slow guys just realised I have 6000 photos on my Mac in no organisation at all so slowly choosing a few at a time to upload to flickr,, I warned you this thread may take some time!!

    as can be seen from the following there was a huge amount of earth movement which for now we roughly terraced to be sorted out once build is complete, we also had fun with some decent bonfires!! our foster boys loved this and all the heavy plant moving earth all day!!

    Night earth moving, bet the chickens seemed quiet compared to this!!

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    rough shaping of excess earth from house site

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    The old veg plot

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    Wife and small dog for scale!!

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    rough house site, higher tier is garage, lower tier is where main house will be

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    Red line is finished floor level need to go deeper for footings to be poured

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    Earth Earth everywhere!!
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    Fun time for all men !!
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    What no basement!?
     
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    Finished the house in 2015. Will start on the landscaping this year. Really looking forward to your updates.

    I have over 11k pics sorted in monthly order it's proved invaluable when looking for solid fixings behind the plasterboard. You cannot take enough pics. That's 3 years worth by the way.

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    Agree, you need a basement for the home cinema.
     
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    Would of loved one but had enough hassle getting planning through as it is!!!!

    There has been No removal of spoil from site whatsoever, a basement would of been nice but of course added more expense, out garage, workshop, family room is 5m by 5m tho,,,,
     
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    Liking this.

    Adds to watched threads.
     
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    One of the advantages is that it is out of sight. Plus a sloping site really lends itself to a basement as you can get light in. And digging it adds very little to the cost on a new build.

    Anyway, I'm sure it will be lovely :smashin:
     
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    Hope so :)

    Think its a bit late to add one now
     
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    There's much more to the cost than just the digging. If your build is a reasonable £75/sq foot, a modest 12ft x 12ft room adds almost £11k. Basements are generally much bigger, and even increasing to 20 ft x 20ft with £75/sq ft you're looking at adding £30k to the overall cost.
     
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    All good points, also i forgot to mention my budget isnt a monster!!!

    Thats why im managing myself hopefully sucsessfully

    Every decision makes a huge difference financially some tough calls involved in the whole process.
     
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    A basement is one of the most expensive ways of adding space even if planned from the start. And if the land isn't ideally suited can get very expensive. If you have plenty of land and are building a detached house from scratch, then it probably isn't even necessary.
     
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    We underpinned our place - something like 60sqm. Cost something like £32k eight years ago. Massively more difficult retrospectively. Probably spent another £15k on it (only half converted into living space so far). But probably added £150k value.

    I don't honestly know the cost implications, but with open ground, the footings are the same cost (assuming they don't have to be enlarged). I'm sure a digger would make short work of the soil removal. Blockwork or poured concrete out of the ground would probably not be hugely expensive. I'd be very surprised if it really would cost that much. But academic in this case now.
     
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    Looking good Buster, quite the project.
     
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    Discussed very recently and I think this is the link I posted in that thread:

    Basement Pros and Cons | Homebuilding & Renovating

    If he's adding a single dwelling to an acre site then there are probably more cost effective ways of building than putting in and waterproofing a basement. You are still building a 3 storey building which presumably needs stronger foundations than a two storey one. It would be interesting to know whether it's cheaper/the same/more expensive to build a three storey house than a two storey one with the same square footage.
     
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    Much easier and ultimately cheaper to add Sq. footage above ground than below especially where water table levels are increasing.

    I toyed with it for a pool below my garage with sauna and gym. It worked our at the almost the cost as a family membership to out local 5Star spa for 25 years.

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    It is cheaper to build above ground where there is land available. Planning restrictions may effect the height of a building and the number of bedrooms. A basement may not class as habitable space if it is deemed to be storage. A sloping site is perfect as far as water tables are concerned.

    Every case is different and there are so many factors. But they are definitely cool :)
     
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    I'm guessing the spa membership might increase in those years. And the value of the basement would increase with the value of property. So the economics are a little flawed!

    Sorry to the OP for this huge diversion!
     
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    My planner did say that my house at 213sqm was a bit small. He thought 300sqm was about right for the site, about 2.5 acres on a sloping site.

    " Only In Ireland"

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    No worries about thread derailing its all interesting stuff part of the learning curve in case anyone else builds or I do another one lol.
     
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    People told me I should get it perfect with my third.[emoji23][emoji23]

    Not sure if you have done this already and apologies if you have but put in multistrand external grade multi cables to the front gates and garage and anywhere else you can think of that sometime in the future you might put some sort structure ie shed. Add sockets to the eves for Christmas lights. Also mains water supply taps to various points outside to aid watering plants etc.

    Put in a external power socket and water tap for use in pressure washing the car near the garage.

    HTH

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    Thanks mate covered most of those angles as well as a pile of cat 6 all over the place, im sure ive missed things lol especially as its the first time.
     
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    ok last one for today, after a few weeks of earth moving and trench digging, drainage pits etc it was time for footings to go in

    Note our lovely stoney ground, hard work but great for drainage!!

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    First block Delivery

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    some concrete poured and couple small retaining walls put up
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    Starting to take some shape

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    more tomorrow getting there,,,
     
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    next set were taken between 28th May and 10th of June, we had the timber frame being delivered on the 20th of June and all had to be ready for it, luckily the weather held and we were able to crack on with the block and bean flooring prior to the scaffold arriving!!
    block and beam ready to begin

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    Thats more like it
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    Good to see rooms taking shape!
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    Made deadline, scaffold arrives on 9th June so 4 1/2 months into build

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    Next up timber frame delivery exciting times!!
     
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    Was your floor laid out in blocks, then a screed over the top?
     
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    Yes suspended block and beam flooring then dolly blocks to accept timberframe, then screed to be poured over block and beam once dpm and insulation in place
     

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