nero0410
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I am also looking at the tv route, but the price creeps up extremely quickly over on those forums, as I did want 85", but £4k+ for anything decent was a bit much, and although 77" would be ok, a 100" UST laser projector is something I have been considering for a long time, and I'm now in a position to make a purchase.
Ideally I'd like to get one that comes with a free screen, guessing that ALR would be best for ambient light, but have read here that some believe it to be a fad. So Just a 100" UST Laser Projector with a screen would be fine too I imagine, if it's grey to help with blacks and contrast, great! I have seen a few I like the look of and some deals about like these:
Pushing it a bit with this one, but I do like the look of it:
Though I'm not sure what's good and what's not with this new tech, I've not really kept up and not able to demo it until I buy it really, so hopefully you'll be able to help steer me in the right direction as the staff I've spoken to in various stores just seem to all think everything they sell is amazing at any price point.
From my understanding, I'd be able to use this and not have to worry so much about using it more or less as a tv without a tuner?
Usage:
70% Movies and TV / 30% Gaming (Switch/1080p PC - May move to 4K PC.)... though this can shift to a 50/50 split.
A typical evening/night as dont sleep at night can be a good 8-10 hours of use, occasionally around 12+ with Movie Marathons, like back to back LOTR Extended Edition.
I'd hopefully be aiming to order one this week for delivery Friday/Saturday, but I do really need some help and advice first to make sure I make the correct purchase.
I have copied and pasted this guide shamelessly from the Best TV for me forum and questions here to help you help me find the best one to suit me:
What's your budget and size requirements?
My budget is £2500-3000 - Half to a third cash, the rest credit. I have seen a few deals around this price inclusive of a screen. I would like to go up to a 100" from my current 65" since it's a UST I'm after.
I'd rather buy new with a 6yr warranty than second hand.
Which external devices do you plan to connect to the TV?
Will you use internal or external apps or tuners for the following? If external, via which device?
Please rearrange the following, in descending importance:
I just need to have some advice and recommendations, with links if you got them, and learn more before I purchase. Of course I have read through as much advice as I can, so now having a conversation with likeminded people would be helpful and beneficial.
Cheers.
Ideally I'd like to get one that comes with a free screen, guessing that ALR would be best for ambient light, but have read here that some believe it to be a fad. So Just a 100" UST Laser Projector with a screen would be fine too I imagine, if it's grey to help with blacks and contrast, great! I have seen a few I like the look of and some deals about like these:
Optoma CinemaX P2 (White)
Shop for Optoma CinemaX P2 (White) Laser DLP 4K UHD HDR 3D Ultra-Short Throw Projector with Richer Sounds for a 6 Year Guarantee, expert advice and Lowest Prices Guaranteed
www.richersounds.com
Sapphire SALFS221WSF
Shop for Sapphire SALFS221WSF 100 inch Ambient Light Fixed Frame Projector Screen with Richer Sounds for expert advice and lowest prices guaranteed
www.richersounds.com
Hisense 100L5FTUK-B12 Laser Projector
Shop for Hisense 100L5FTUK-B12 100 inch 4K Ultra HD HDR Smart Laser Projector TV with Richer Sounds for a 6 Year Guarantee, expert advice and Lowest Prices Guaranteed
www.richersounds.com
Samsung The Premiere SP-LSP7T
Shop for Samsung The Premiere SP-LSP7T Laser DLP 4K UHD HDR Smart Ultra-Short Throw Projector with Richer Sounds for a 6 Year Guarantee, expert advice and Lowest Prices Guaranteed
www.richersounds.com
Pushing it a bit with this one, but I do like the look of it:
Optoma UHZ65UST (Black)
Shop for Optoma UHZ65UST Black Laser DLP 4K UHD HDR 3D Ultra-Short Throw Projector with Richer Sounds for a 6 Year Guarantee, expert advice and Lowest Prices Guaranteed
www.richersounds.com
Though I'm not sure what's good and what's not with this new tech, I've not really kept up and not able to demo it until I buy it really, so hopefully you'll be able to help steer me in the right direction as the staff I've spoken to in various stores just seem to all think everything they sell is amazing at any price point.
From my understanding, I'd be able to use this and not have to worry so much about using it more or less as a tv without a tuner?
Usage:
70% Movies and TV / 30% Gaming (Switch/1080p PC - May move to 4K PC.)... though this can shift to a 50/50 split.
A typical evening/night as dont sleep at night can be a good 8-10 hours of use, occasionally around 12+ with Movie Marathons, like back to back LOTR Extended Edition.
I'd hopefully be aiming to order one this week for delivery Friday/Saturday, but I do really need some help and advice first to make sure I make the correct purchase.
I have copied and pasted this guide shamelessly from the Best TV for me forum and questions here to help you help me find the best one to suit me:
What's your budget and size requirements?
My budget is £2500-3000 - Half to a third cash, the rest credit. I have seen a few deals around this price inclusive of a screen. I would like to go up to a 100" from my current 65" since it's a UST I'm after.
I'd rather buy new with a 6yr warranty than second hand.
Which external devices do you plan to connect to the TV?
- Apple TV 4k - Yes
- Nvidia Shield 4k - Yes, mostly.
- HD Blu-Ray Player? - Not often at all. Just now and then when someone brings a disc round.
- Games console - Yes
- Nintendo Switch.
- A computer - Yes.
- nVidia GTX 1070 gaming at @1080p resolution (Though will upgrade to an RTX 3070 or or 4070?, depending on whats about when I upgrade. Was going to be a 2070, but the chip shortage happened and all hell broke loose)
- What streaming services do you plan to use?
- (All HD or 4K, whatever's available)
- Apple - My iTunes collection
- Netflix Premium
- Amazon Prime
- Disney+
- Catch up TV apps,
- BBC iPlayer, ITV Hub.
- Broadcast TV
- None
SD | 30% |
HD | 50% |
UHD | 20% |
- DVDs - No
- FHD Blu-Rays - No
- UHD Blu-Rays - No
- Gaming - Yes
- Mainly HD between Nintendo Switch and PC @ 1080p
- (Maybe moving into 4K territory when I upgrade the GPU)
- What proportion of your total viewing will be content in SD, HD or UHD?
SD | 20% |
HD | 60% |
UHD | 20% |
- What proportion of your viewing will be broadcast TV shows, broadcast sport, broadcast movies, streaming TV/movies, DVDs, FHD Blu-Rays, UHD Blu-Rays or games?
Broadcast TV shows | 0% |
Broadcast Sport | 0% |
Broadcast Movies | 0% |
Streaming TV shows or Movies | 70% |
DVDs | 0% |
HD Blu-Rays | 0% |
UHD Blu-Rays | 0% |
Games | 30% |
Will you use internal or external apps or tuners for the following? If external, via which device?
- Broadcast TV - No
- Streaming services - External
- Catch up apps - External
- What TV are you currently using and what are expecting to see upgrading to a new TV? - My current tv is a SAMSUNG UE65NU7470 65" which I am very happy with and will be moving into the bedroom. I have decided that I'd like a larger screen for the lounge, 100" is ample I think, if it's capable of 120" (AS WELL as 100"), I'll be changing my room around. I'm very happy with the quality of my current tv, so mainly wanting that kind of quality with a bigger screen. The main upgrade I'd like is the size.
- Are you a tweaker or set and forget kind of person? - Set and forget.
- What is your viewing distance? - 3.2m of 100" (If I change the room around which will be a nuisance, around 4m from 120" at a guess)
- If you place yourself in the position of your TV facing towards where you watch, at what angle from the centre is each integral seating position? (Tip, use a protractor to measure angles). - I live alone and don't have company often, so it's mainly just me sitting directly opposite the middle of the screen. When I lie down and watch, the angle is approx 45 degrees, but this is mainly tv shows (I dont have a protractor)
- When will you use the TV and what kind of lighting will be in your room? Some examples:
- Bright conditions during the day. - Sometimes, especially in the summer. I'll have light coming through patio doors, though I can close the blackout curtains which still allow a fair amount of ambient light in the tops and sides of those doors.
- Dark conditions during the day. - Not often, maybe once a week, I have blackout curtains.
- Dark movie nights in the evening. - Often, I don't sleep at night well at all, so a good chunk will be at this time.
- Always use a lamp or light in the room, even in the evening. - Not always, but often. Just one lamp or just some fairy lights, not very bright. I never use the main light.
- Would your usage of an OLED TV put you at risk of permanent burn in? Please read: OLED Burn In Risk - Possibly according to the guide linked? I do play games for hours on end at a time, but no chance with channel logos/news tickers, etc...
- Do you need any legacy connections like composite or component? - No.
- If using planning to use an internal tuner will you use satellite or free to air? Satellite.
Please rearrange the following, in descending importance:
- Blacks - Value
- Cost
- Blacks
- Shadow Detail
- SDR Picture Quality
- HDR Picture Quality - I'm not too hung up on HDR as long as it looks 'natural'. I'm honestly not sure how much content I watch actually has HDR and everything looks fine to me on my current TV.
- Picture accuracy out of the box (without pro calibration) - I like to tweak a little to tune to my eye, then set and forget.
- Sound
- Smart TV ease of use
- Smart TV app selection
- Viewing angles
- Motion blur
- Motion judder with 24hz movies/TV shows. See: Judder-Free 24p on TVs
- Motion stutter
- Bad screen uniformity, Dirty Screen Effect, Clouding, Light Bleed, Blooming, Vignetting, Haloing
- Loss of detail in dark areas or crushed blacks.
- Raised blacks
- Reflective screens
- Colour banding.
- Slow smart TV
I just need to have some advice and recommendations, with links if you got them, and learn more before I purchase. Of course I have read through as much advice as I can, so now having a conversation with likeminded people would be helpful and beneficial.
Cheers.
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