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My first high def experience

MarkP80

Active Member
Hi all,

Had my first experience of high def at the weekend, and thought I’d post my thoughts here. It was actually my brother in law's Christmas present – a PS3, and I was v impressed.

My b-in-l isn’t really into the tech stuff, and had only really been gaming, as he only had a couple of movie discs. Anyway, our two wives were stood around one of those digital photo frames looking at a slideshow, which he had prepared from the PC on a memory stick. I have to say, it was rather comical watching them stand there for ten minutes mesmerised by a photo frame on a table in the hall. I then suggested putting the memory stick into the PS3 and seeing if we could show the photos on the plasma - my brother hadn't tried this and TBH wasn't really up to speed with what the PS3 can do. Couple of joypad clicks, and there it was, all the photos on a rather nice slideshow on the tv (in fact there are a couple of rather clever slideshow options, that must take a LOT of processing power).

OK, not that impressive you might say, but I thought it was rather good, and things like this bring it out of the category of a "games console" that most folk have it pigeon holed as.

He thought this was great, and said he would have to get more photos archived onto memory sticks. Hold on though, we then talked about the possibilities of simply organising all the photos on his pc, and simply streaming the photos from there, over the network. When you then think of streaming music the same way, it opens up all sorts of possibilities. Now, I know this is all old news to you guys familiar with this stuff, but when you’ve never seen it done – well, the imagination starts running away with what you can do. It really does make you start to understand what a home media hub is all about. This is one clever machine, AND it is very simple to use. So much so that my wife suggested we get one, without even considering using it for games!

I also asked what he thought of the differences between BD films and normal DVD. He thought there wasn't much in it, as his DVD player upscales (but then so does the plasma screen anyway, as has been discussed here many times, but that hadn’t actually been pointed out when he bought the DVD player….). Turned out he had Casino Royale on DVD and BD, but hadn't thought of putting them on at the same time to do a comparison. So we did...

Switching inputs between the two, the differences were so plain to see. On the scene near the beginning with the leaping about on the tower cranes, the DVD picture looked really good. Switching to BD though, the difference was remarkable. The picture was so much sharper. Background steelwork was the obvious sign - on DVD it was very soft, but BD gave it a real clarity which added greatly to the impression of depth. No digital artefacts either, that I could see. The BD picture was just stunning. I hadn’t expected the differences to be so obvious, but it was there for all to see. TV was a Panasonic 42" plasma, PD60 I think.

Now I know it’s all about being entertained by the film you are watching, but I hadn’t expected the difference to be so startling. Having seen what HD can do, I may well try a new format a lot earlier than I had expected.

BTW, I have a 720p projector, so not sure if I would see the same benefits – can’t display full HD, but much bigger screen – any opinions on this? I may have to see if I can convince him to bring the PS3 round to try….

Regards,
MarkP
 

Apone

Well-known Member
Hi all,

BTW, I have a 720p projector, so not sure if I would see the same benefits – can't display full HD, but much bigger screen – any opinions on this? I may have to see if I can convince him to bring the PS3 round to try….

Regards,
MarkP

Hi

If you want to sample some HD stuff on your 720p projector, try and look at some film trailers that are available from www.davestrailerpage.co.uk

Many film trailers are available to download and you have a choice on many between 480/7201080p! Best to look at 720p trailers as that would mean no scaling of the picture.

Be sure to see these via the HDMI socket if you have one on the PJ. You will not be dissapointed:cool:

BTW if you watch Casino Royale in BD via the PS3 on your pj in HD, the memory of the plasma will soon be forgotten...........
 

MarkP80

Active Member
Thanks Apone,

Unfortunately, I don't think there's any way I can get downloaded content onto my projector with my current setup. I have no link to the PC. I think I need to get him to bring the PS3 round! Then I just need to convince the wife we need one!!!

Cheers,
MarkP
 

Apone

Well-known Member
Thanks Apone,

Unfortunately, I don't think there's any way I can get downloaded content onto my projector with my current setup. I have no link to the PC. I think I need to get him to bring the PS3 round! Then I just need to convince the wife we need one!!!

Cheers,
MarkP

Depending on what connections your PC has all you have to do is bring the pc over to the rack and use a DVI - HDMI connector(Male DVI to female HDMI) and connect your pc to the PJ with your existing HDMI - HDMI lead that you have in place.

Maplins sell them

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=97901&doy=10m1

All you do is connect that adapter into the DVI socket of pc and then put existing HDMI lead(which i think you use for the dvd player?) into the back of the adapter.

As you have a 720p pj, set the graphics card to 1280 x 720 and then select the HDMI input on the pj.

Once your missus sees HD on the pj, then convincing her may be easier for when you want the ps3;)
 

Apone

Well-known Member
BTW a vey nice install you have there.
 

MarkP80

Active Member
Thanks for the advice Apone.
My desktop is actually in an upstairs room, so it would be a bit of a mess on. However, I do have my son's laptop here, which is a bit of a fancy one I think. I could rather easily do what you suggest I think. I installed a HDMI lead to the projector when I originally set it up, this is currently free and unused, so I can connect straight to it - the DVD uses component. I'll give it a go!

Glad you like the cinema room BTW!

Regards,
MarkP
 

Crocodile JD

Active Member
I think you will still be stunned by the extra that HD gives on your projector even when down scaled to 720p. Remember that down scaling is invinately better than upscaling. My projector has to scale down even further but the difference is still huge. I did the same Casino Royal test just this weekend when I borrowed my friend's PS3. I have a Denon 1940. I too was suprised to see just how much difference there was. As you say, the extra sharpness in everything including distant background detail such as clouds etc makes for so much more depth. I'm a bit gutted to be honest as I've not long bought the Denon on the basis that it would tide me over until HD had settled down. But now I've seen it how long can I hold out :devil:

Re: the streaming, hard drive, usb options etc. I'm not so keen. I like the idea that my home cinema kit is separate to computer and network on the basis that every computer I've ever had eventually gets riddled with bugs viruses, incompatibility issues etc etc without extreme care and time to manage properly. I just like the idea that when finally I have time to sit and watch a film, I can put the disc in sit back and enjoy.

Croc
 

MarkP80

Active Member
Croc,

I did the same Casino Royal test just this weekend when I borrowed my friend's PS3. I have a Denon 1940. I too was suprised to see just how much difference there was.

- it's unmistakeable isn't it? Thanks for the comments, I am now on a mission to try a hi-def source with my projector. I'll be borrowing something, my son's laptop or the brother-in-law's PS3. Or I might just see if I can buy my own. But how to get it in the house unnoticed......

MarkP
 

Crocodile JD

Active Member
Or I might just see if I can buy my own. But how to get it in the house unnoticed......
:D well I wouldn't call the PS3 inconspicuous in its styling. One cautionary note. I did find it a bit noisy, the only really negative thing I found. It was the 60 Gig model. I believe that the 40 Gig one is quiter and there is a 20 Gig one out now apparently (and a 100 Gig if you wanted to go the other way).

Croc
 

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