Only the Nano90 has full-array local dimming and they're all IPS panels as well.
Those are all 2020 models and may feature in my best buy guide of 2020-21 TVs. They have no place in this guide.May want to add these...
Supports 4K 120Hz, 1440p 120Hz. ALLM, FreeSync.
Their European venture is different from America, the ones sold here in Europe are completely different. There may be one or two of there new TVs in my new guide, but it depends a lot on pricing. They tend to be more expensive than Hisense TVs of similar specs, so its often hard to recommend them.- Are TCL products any good? Problem is I can't find much info about their global products, like P715 or C715 since they aren't sold in North America.
These are 2020 models whilst this guide is only 2019 models. You should wait for the new guide to see the best buys from new ranges. Right now its not good value to buy a 2020 model because of prices are quite high.- Is Samsung TU8000 worth paying extra, when compared to Samsung TU7000? 50" TU7000 is about the same price as 43" TU8000 where I am, and it'd have a better chance of having a VA panel if I understand correctly. 50" TU8000 would make me go a bit out of budget.
Philips are a bit behind when it comes to LCD TVs compared to other rival brands. They moved there high end TV production to OLEDs only, so the LCD TVs, even the 9 series are just low end models now.Hey. I don't know if this is the right thread, but I am looking to buy a new TV (after 12 years) and I believe I will, if there's not deal appearing of another brand that is too good to not go for, go for a Philips TV as I like the idea of Ambilight. I am basically watching about 60% programs and documentaries through Swedish public service, 20% football and around 20% netflix and such. I would say I care about quality in terms of picture, motion etc. but I also understand whatever choice I make will be a lot better than my 12 year old TV. So I don't just wanna buy the best and most expensive if it's only in special occasions I will really notice the difference.
I have been thinking a lot about Philips PUS9005 and right now it's around 1250 dollars in my country (Sweden). There is a deal until tomorrow at a retailer and they state it's 1100 dollar discount (I don't really know how true that is and the discounts in this business seem silly). I cannot really tell how good this TV is, and how good it is compared to others. I know it's got VA panels which I think I prefer (not from experience but only from what I've read, it's 70", it's got 4-sided ambilight. Right there my knowledge ends haha...
I have also been thinking about an OLED TV but I would want at least 65" I believe and i believe the OLEDs 65" won't be within my budget the coming months (1600 dollars limit ish). Apart from the 4-sided Ambilight I haven't really figured out either what's the difference between this TV and the lower Philips series (7 and 8), but I just imagine it's the same or slightly better (depending on panels ofc).
I would love if you, Dodgexander, would like to give me some input here, because I am really lost and also a little bit stressed as the deal disappears tomorrow. I have heard that you shouldn't buy until BF and I might wait until then but I am just very keen on buying a new TV and my gut feeling is this deal is good. Only obvious bad thing about it is that it's not the most beautiful TV I've seen, but I imagine I will get used to it (if i go for it ofc).
Thanks in advance, and sorry if this is the wrong thread for this topic.
Roughly the same as the B series recommended in this guide. Heres a comparison between 2020 and 2019: 2019-20/2020-21 range comparison.I’m thinking of getting this for £299, for the bedroom. Appreciate it won’t be incredible. Can anyone say if they think it’s ok?
Thanks for your input. Then I imagine the price (960£) being way too expensive for what you get with a Philips 9005 70", in comparison to other brands/Philips OLED? Is there a more affordable Philips OLED model that might drop to decent prices at BF or later this fall? I have been thinking about OLED754 previously. It was around 1400£ in Sweden for a while but unfortunately it's now around 1575£, which makes it feel less of a bargain.Philips are a bit behind when it comes to LCD TVs compared to other rival brands. They moved there high end TV production to OLEDs only, so the LCD TVs, even the 9 series are just low end models now.
So there's nothing really wrong with buying Philips, there LCD TVs are not any better or worse really than other brands but only if you are shopping for lower tier models.
That basically means the TV will be fine for regular non-HDR usage, but not for HDR. In this guide a TV like the 9 series LCD would fit in the low-range section. Philips LCD TVs this year are all also using only 60hz panels, so motion won't be great compared to other higher end TVs either.
I'd suggest instead buying an OLED from Philips. If you buy at the right time of year and get a good deal, you can get 65" models relatively cheap. Right now prices are still high, with Black Friday (approx a year from when I made this guide) being the very first time to even consider buying a TV.
If you can still find 2019 stock now, it may also be priced quite cheap. In the UK it wasn't long ago last year's Philips OLED754 was selling for £1500 at 65". - You'll find that TV in the high end section of this guide.
The OLED754 is a 2019 model (with Philips, last digit is model year progression) if its still around for sales come Black Friday or later then it will probably get reduced again, prices fluctuate a lot.Thanks for your input. Then I imagine the price (960£) being way too expensive for what you get with a Philips 9005 70", in comparison to other brands/Philips OLED? Is there a more affordable Philips OLED model that might drop to decent prices at BF or later this fall? I have been thinking about OLED754 previously. It was around 1400£ in Sweden for a while but unfortunately it's now around 1575£, which makes it feel less of a bargain.
Input lag in game mode is 12ms. Don't bother reading into input lag figures nowadays though, all TVs have low enough lag. It's a bit different to in the past when TVs were lacking game mode, and even if they had a game mode input lag was high.I know HDR will be terrible on these TV's relative to the OLEDs and £700+ TV's, but would they add anything to the image at all once calibrated through the console or is it completely pointless? (specifically asking because the upcoming Xbox has a hardware assisted "autoHDR" feature which gets applied to all games via artificial intelligence trained tone mapping)
You can never expect anything, but its the first time of year TVs deals are reasonable. This is why I made this guide in anticipation last year. I'll have a new one out in time this year too.Does anyone expect any of the big brand budget TV's to drop below £400 on black Friday based on previous years or is it worth getting one of these cheap Hisense TV's ASAP before the cheap refurb deals go away?
I have actually come to change my mind, partly because of what you told me before. Thanks for that! I might have a refund for the TV I've ordered (Philips PUS9005 for 960 pounds). Thinking about either going for the 55 Philips OLED754 for 900£ or going for the 65 inch one, but it's not as discounted (around 1570 pounds at the moment). I am a bit worried about buying the 55 inch as I feel it might be a bit too small (i sit around 2,7-3,2 metres away) and therefore be a less immersive experience than the bigger model.The OLED754 is a 2019 model (with Philips, last digit is model year progression) if its still around for sales come Black Friday or later then it will probably get reduced again, prices fluctuate a lot.
It's not really been replaced in 2020, with the 8 series rather than 7 series (models ending with 5, like OLED835) so those would be the closest in price.
As for the value for money on that 70" LCD TV, its not fantastic, but not the worst either. Its a low range TV and 70" is a bit of a niche size nowadays so its not as competitive as similar spec TVs from other manufacturers at 65" and 75".
You'll have to make a decision on how much you value picture quality. If its more important you have a TV that sizes up exactly 70" than it is to have a TV that can display HDR to an impressive level, or a TV that has good motion, then its fine going for that model. But if you are looking for something that offers more future proofing, better overall picture quality and better HDR you need to think about a different brand LCD TV, or a Philips OLED.
At your distance you definitely want to go bigger, the price of the OLED754 at 1570 is actually very good, and about as cheap as a 65" OLED has been historically. It's a very good deal, and probably will only be met by the LG BX when its price drops to a similar amount (usually each year B series drops to around 1500 in spring).Is the OLED754 still good value for money for these prices in your opinion? I won't be able to buy a higher-end model (at least not a 65 inch one which I prefer).
Alright! This purchase will primarily be for my parents since I'm moving in half a year or so, and they are not technical at all and they need it to be rather simple when it comes to settings and so. Is this TV, after some tweaking rather self-going or might you probably have to adjust the settings pretty often?At your distance you definitely want to go bigger, the price of the OLED754 at 1570 is actually very good, and about as cheap as a 65" OLED has been historically. It's a very good deal, and probably will only be met by the LG BX when its price drops to a similar amount (usually each year B series drops to around 1500 in spring).
Okay, thanks for info!If it helps the bx 65 dropped to £1432 on very if took over 12 months
It's about as basic as you'll get from a TV nowadays, doesn't use the advance smart system as their 8 series TVs running their own basic Saphi OS. You won't need to adjust settings more than any TV.Alright! This purchase will primarily be for my parents since I'm moving in half a year or so, and they are not technical at all and they need it to be rather simple when it comes to settings and so. Is this TV, after some tweaking rather self-going or might you probably have to adjust the settings pretty often?
Also I am a little bit worried about burn-ins, especially since I am trying to convince my parents to actually go for this TV instead of a cheaper option. Is that something to be worried about or shouldn't there be a problem with normal use? (Not same news show everyday for hours and such).
Thanks for your reply btw, the TV sounds really promising.