Munich High End 2019 Show Report

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    1. Ed Selley

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      Thank you for the overview of the event.


      I now really really desire a “Stromtank” although only have the vaguest idea of what it can do for me!
       
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      Any new kinds of hilarity in snake-oil corner?
       
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      Get you divorced?
       
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      Plenty but time is fleeting so I largely left it be.
       
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      I'm wondering about the SA30 from Arcam.
      Does it have HDMI ARC as reported elsewhere on-line? I can't see it in any pics on the web and it wasn't mentioned in the write up...
       
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      That Yam room could have been set up decades ago!
       
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      I really need the lottery to roll the right numbers for me.

      Would love to hear electostatic speakers, especially versus a 'standard' design. Also them missions are looking sweet, they seem to have a qacoustic look to them, but more refined.
       
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      Garrard 301 at £12k plus, hell. I wonder how many they expect to sell? When I had my 401 I used the 9in SME arm as all the pundits said the 12in was just not suited to it.
       
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      So what was the most expensive setup there?
       
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      The Nagra room with YG Acoustics speakers was well over a million pounds.
       
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      Didn't Steinway-Lyngdrof or Lyngdorf Audio have any stands?
      I also didn't realise that Yamaha and Wharfedale did high end?? Maybe I'm not up to date.
       
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      Denon and Arcam are tenuous for me too. That said if they wanted to spend money and attend the show the organisers would be fools not to take the money.
       
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      Thanks @Ed Selley for the effort !
      I really think the SA30 is the sweet spot (Terrestrial in Ed's vocabulary) new born product of this year!
      I'll start saving for blackfriday it would be a great addition to my system.
       
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      That Yamaha rig will give very little change from £30k so it's not exactly entry level. The Wharfedale is going to be 'just under £5k' and again, while not the true high end, it isn't exactly cheap. No Steinway Lyngdorf- I don't think they've ever attended.

      In reality, there's more affordable gear at Munich that at Bristol. It's just interspersed with stuff that is mind boggling.
       
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      TBH the minute I hit post I felt all dirty and snob like for posting it :rotfl:
       
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      Stupid prices.
       
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      Not much there for the working man then...

      Anything room correction related? or is that dirty words at a hifi show?
       
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      Isn't it obvious? It conditions your mains, makes them nice and glossy. And regenerates things.
       
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      Did you not read about the mains conditioner?
       
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      That's good enough for me - order placed!
       
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      Too pedestrian, I need the real madness:

      - An energy drink that improves your listening ability.

      - Mechanically oscillating speaker stands that balance out any tonal distortion.

      - A giant inflatable house-correction tent with 800 microphones.

      - Acoustically-treated paint.

      - A Bluetooth vape.

      I’ve just made these up, but 3/5 probably exist.
       
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      The $1500 McIntosh lightbox is my favourite

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      Yes but...but.. does it not provide a "storm" and a "tank".

      I feel my life is bereft without owning one of these!
       
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      I would never criticise anyone for what they decide to spend their money on, and it must get very repetitive updating your helicopter or yacht every single year but:

      1. Why is so much of this stuff so hideous? Is it function over form?
      2. Are the gains so significant over stuff that's actually affordable and can fit into your home?

      I suppose it could be argued that a lot of this technology can and does trickle down eventually, so we all do benefit from this in some way. And, of course, if my numbers did come up then I would be able to extend my budget on each component, but then that might lead to another dilemma: too much choice!
       
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      It does, yes.
       
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      Some of is (particularly in the world of turntables and speakers) genuinely form being thrown under the function bus, though given how gorgeous Rega manage to make their decks I do occasionally wonder.

      Other stuff would very much like you to believe that the form is achieving a function other than signalling that this is actually getting you something for your fortune, mind you.
       
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      That room sounded awful, it was embarrassing the number of expensive items on expensive racks. Ordinary at best, I didn't even sit down for more than 30 seconds

      The best room by a country mile was the Silbertone/western Electric room. The valves were made in 1917, the horns in the 1930's........ Some of the guitar, jazz, female vocals, and church choirs were remarkable. The more you sat there the more you wanted to stay, not a feeling I came across very much at the show, if at all....
       
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      No glamorous presentation or expensive stands.....

      Munich 2.1-9512711.jpg Munich 2.2-9512708.jpg
       
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      The Lyndorf room was shared and the 2 channel set up was not very memorable, at this price point to me a number of rooms where better. The revamped JBL's driven with Levinson were good

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