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Muffled Dialogue??

Discussion in 'AV Receivers & Amplifiers' started by rscott4563, Apr 4, 2003.

  1. rscott4563

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    I have a query regarding my surround setup and the lack of definition I seem to be getting from my centre speaker with dialogue from Dolby digital soundtracks.
    My setup is:
    Denon 2800MKII DVD
    Denon 2802 AV
    Kef 2005 Sat & Sub

    I notice that with DD DVD soundtracks sometimes the dialogue can get lost in the rest of the sound and seems to be very muffled and lacking in crispness, this is more apparent on some movies than others, for example "We were soldiers" is a very bad in this regard, as is "Black hawk down" and "Minority report".

    I was wondering if this is something that can be sorted out with changing some of the setup options such as Cinema Eq or Tone Def etc...

    Or is it just that these DVD's have poorly mastered audio, or do I need to upgrade my speakers, in particular my centre??

    All help with setup suggestions or alternative solutions will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
     
  2. iwatkins

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    Simple suggestion that works for me when I do run disks like this. I simply increase the centre channel level to an amount where the dialogue becomes clear. On my Sony that is usually something like + 3 db.

    Cheers

    Ian
     
  3. rscott4563

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    tried that but to get it to a suitable level for dialogue I have to ramp it up to around +4or 5ish which causes it to sound loud but still a bit muffled?? No definition if you know what I mean.
     
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    Not sure what your Kef speakers are, but you could try :-

    1 - Moving the centre speaker, found mine seem to work better below screen and firing slightly up.

    2 - Isolate the centre by sticking some blue tack under it.

    3 - Maker sure your centre is set to small on the amp, so any low bass goes to the mains or sub.

    Hope that helps a bit, option 3 may not be relevany on a sat/sub package.
     
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    Like slingshot says, try an alternative position for your centre - above or below TV opposite to what you have now. My centre sounded too 'bright' on top of the TV so it now resides under it and sounds much better.
     
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    its currently just below the tv on the top glass shelf of the tv unit pointing slightly upwards towards the viewing position.

    LFE is directed to sub, and the crossover is set at 100hz
     
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    Is the centre speaker also set as small ?
     
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    yeah, all speakers are set to small
     
  9. slingshot

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    Oh yeah just remebered years ago I had a cheapo Eltax centre speaker and it sounded really naff until I tightened up some of the actual driver screws (only 1 of the bass units 4 screws were tight)

    You never know.
     
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    Like I posted earlier, my experience is that centres sound brighter or even clearer on top of TVs. Try putting it on top, hopefully that should do the trick!
     
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    positioning can play a bit part, I had my centre on top of tv and sounded a bit muffled, placed under tv and became clearer - depends on speaker I guess - experiment - make sure it is de-coupled from TV using blue tack or rubber if provided
     
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    Fiddle with the various dynamic compression/vocal enhance/blah blah blah modes on the Denon.
     
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    The front sound stage improved more than I would have belived when I got rid of the TV and bought a Projector instead.:smashin:

    Have you tried feeling for vibration of the TV stand with and without the centre playing on it. TV's and stands can resonate quite happily and 'muddy' the sound. A bit of soft decoupling might help I used Focul pods but there are several to choose from.
     
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