I need to buy an MP3 jukebox and have narrowed my list down to 3 choices: iPod (20Gb) - £299.99 Creative Zen Xtra (60Gb!) - £294.99 iRiver iHP120 (20Gb) - £244.99 I'm kind of veering away from the iPod because of battery life problems and price but am having a real problem deciding which of the other two to go for because of the following reasons: 1) Creative Zen Xtra has massive storage space, changeable battery, the best sound quality (apparently), but has no output facility. I want to be able to use it in conjunction with my home AV setup. It is larger and has no remote either. 2) iRiver has optical in/out, remote, almost same size as iPod, amazing reviews on the web, is £50 cheaper than the others. Bad stuff is that it has the integrated battery like the iPod, much smaller disk space, limited playlist options. If the Creative Zen had the output facility then I don't think I'd even be considering anything else. I've not been able to use any of these products except for the iPod so don't know what they are really like. Has anyone on here tried them all? Anyone got any good opinions on these which might sway my vote?