Moving to France?

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  1. blue max

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    Renting in London and can't afford to buy, so been considering moving to France.

    Anyone got any advise?
     
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    Learning French would be a good start.
     
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    You know, there's more to the UK than just London.

    Like most large cities, it's a bit of a dump, with a couple of nice-ish spots - move further out and that ratio moves the other way, with lots of nice places to be, interspersed with the occasional dump!
     
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    Any particular reason France....are you needing to work hehe or retiring
     
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    France is lovely, just ruined by all the French people living there! :devil:

    Personally, i think Austria and Italy are nicer.
     
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    OK, I think I need more explanation is required! Separated and have some cash, but not enough to buy in London. Renting for £1400 a month, so it aint cheap! Very nice place and area though. Would stay, but my income is very small. Partner is Italian living in Frankfurt, but not in the best of health. The French health service is superior.

    Been perusing french-property.com and seems I can get an awful lot for my money. Recently went to Sicily and loved it. But who doesn't have a little fantasy about moving to where they went on holiday!

    It's true that the UK has some nice places. I was tempted by a flat in Stockport where I was born, but it was sold. And my brother is in York, so I looked there for a while.

    To be honest, I'm dismayed by brexit and it's likely impact on me personally. Just looking for a reality check on life abroad. Feel a bit naive and any experiences would be welcome.
     
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    Ignore Brexit. Worst case scenario is you will need a Visa. Unless you think your job will vanish as a result.
     
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    No real job. Part time local work and a bit of graphic design over the internet, but nothing to be worried about.

    But meeting my partner is likely to get more complicated. And relocating for either of us potentially.

    It's certainly not going to help.
     
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    If your new partner is Italian she's an EU resident so no issues for them.
     
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    Are you fluent in French?
     
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    My partner speaks five languages. I speak no other. I was rather referring to them coming here or me going to Germany. Though the latter is less likely given that property is even more expensive than london.

    Stopping my horrendous rent is at the forefront of my mind. Been here nearly a year now already.
     
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    I've been in France since 2013, so any questions fire away.

    Don't live in the north....it's like England, but they speak French :D
     
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    South of France can get ridiculously hot in the summer.
     
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    Max - excuse my stupidity, but you are thinking of moving to France for what specific reason?

    I mean, you say your money goes further there, but the same applies to the North of England! You also say you don't speak French, but are you willing to learn and/or immerse yourself in the culture there?

    Are you moving for the climate? If so, that makes sense! And you say the French have a good health system? Well, so do we (despite the Tories ham-fisted attempts to ruin it)!

    I completely understand not wanting to live in London - it's noisy, crowded and polluted. But you could easily move to a Northern city that has its own airport with direct flights to Frankfurt.

    Are you just looking to make a complete change from where you are and what you've known?
     
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    Indeed.

    Were not due to drop below 30c for the next few weeks, and maxed out in the heat wave at 42c in the shade.
     
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    Unless you need to work(in France)
    My limited research showed that as a third country the employer will have to prove that there is no French person that wants the job first. Then an EU worker and finally you
     
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    As above. The French will ALWAYS hire a French person first.
     
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    So it’s summer there as we call it over here :devil::D

    Seriously though I would look elsewhere in the UK pretty closely and then after writing it off look at where to go overseas. If work isn’t a location issue that helps some of the UK to be in the frame. As IG says I think Brexit is a furphy for those living the UK - then again I’m 11,000 miles away having already considered all UK options and got the hell out of dodge 13 years ago :thumbsup:
     
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    I'd ignore Brexit as well, at worst it will be just a bit of paperwork...

    But why France indeed as someone already mentioned....If you like the big city, and I can't blame you I love London as well, then Paris would be even more expensive. If you don't speak the language it will be hard to integrate. Is there any particular about France that you haven't mentioned yet?

    Amsterdam may be easier to transition the move. Housing is also very much cheaper than London. As good as everyone speaks English, heck even retail works often reply to you in English when you speak Dutch. Getting to Frankfurt you just drive ;)
     
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    Just getting back to this. Thanks for all the thoughts.
    I do love the area of London where I have lived for 30 years, but buying is impossible. And the rent is crippling.
    I could buy a small place in Manchester or York (have relatives in both). I have been actively looking and considered buying to rent out and stay put here in London.
    But then I look what I could buy in South France. And the weather is certainly better! I would have to learn French of course and integrate.
    I'm also worried the pound may crash still further. Who knows. If there's a property crash here, I may be better sticking it out though. No-one can really predict.
    There is always a possibility of holiday lets if the place is suitable in France, which could make a little business. But that may be a daydream.
    Just wondering if the grass is actually greener really.
     
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    Aha South of France is/can be lovely :) I did a semester at uni in Aix-en-Provence, and on our time off we alway went to the coast. A friend of mine, and colleague who is French and from Paris, just bought a lovely 1 bedroom apartment in Nice for a bargain price. Ok it is bijoux but you couldn't even buy a garage for that in London.

    I'd say go for it, you only live once. It's nice to have a little bit of Sunshine, and even better to have a decent bakery around the corner :) And your type of work you can do from anywhere in the world :)
     
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    The south west of France (where I live) is a buyer's dream tight now. Can get 4-6 bed farm houses with land for 150-300k. Lower end will need renovation.

    Got some friends who are looking to sell their house soon if you're serious. 4 bed I think with pool and an additional 3-4 bed that they run as holiday let's/b&b. On the edge of a small town. Not sure on the price, but imagine it'll be 250-300k.
     
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    225k sounds great! :rotfl:
    I'm not sure of the system. Do I need to add notary fees and how much does that add?
    And how does council tax compare?
     
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    The fees are much like England. Assume another 5-10k on top.

    Council tax isn't that bad. Our place is 6 bed/4 bath with 25 acres and the tax is 130/month.
     
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    friendly then... :D
     
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    If you are buying through an immobilier the fees are usually shown,I believe most of what is called the notaires fee is actually stamp duty etc...
    Would definitely advise getting south of the loire but the north is convenient for trips back if you went to stock up on certainty items....
    Choose carefully if you need fast internet
     
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