Question Moving master socket and ethernet point

[daftpunk1]

I need to move a double mains socket, master socket and twin ethernet socket about 0.5m left. Any tips on best way to tackle this. The mains socket should be grand, but how do i extend the master socket and ethernet wiring, are there special mini block connectors for joining these cables...

Thinking of chasing the wall out a bit and running the cables at a slight bend inside flexible conduit....

 

[mickevh]

Strictly speaking you should have OpenReach move the master socket as it does not belong to you (everything up to and including the master socket is OpenReach property and we are not at liberty to tamper with it - the master socket is the demarcation point between OpenReach and subscriber property.)

For the UTP there's a couple of options (presuming there isn't enough slack on the cable to move it.) The best way (presuming you use solid core cables) is with a coupler that has a pair of IDC blocks inside it (usually) mounted onto a little circuit board. E.G (though there are plenty of others...) PRO SIGNAL - SM314 - Cat5e Inline Coupler - Black | CPC UK

Alternatively you could crimp plugs onto both cable ends and then connect them with a female-female in line coupler. E.g. (again, many other makes available..) PRO SIGNAL - PSG90329 (PSG08428) - Cat5 Coupler Female to Female | CPC UK

Strictly speaking one should not crimp plugs onto solid core UTP cable, but often you can get away with it. There are also special RJ45 plugs available for crimping onto solid core cable.

Neither are physically "small" solutions (relative to the size of the cable) which may dictate which is appropriate.

Link to site about UTP (though it doesn't talk about such couplers...) How to wire Ethernet Cables

 

[Kristian]

What's the reason for moving things left? Do you need to remove the wall area or are you putting furniture in front of the sockets?

 

[daftpunk1]

Hall is going to be wall papered and we have a marble table in hall that has to be in the position it is in, if its in front of the socket then the front door hits it when opened, so want to move sockets before walls are done..

 

[daftpunk1]

Def seen little clear pvc bullet type connectors in a guys house when i was putting in a cat6 wall plate, bt engineer has used them in tagging onto phone extension. Cant seem to find any, I'm hoping to get something that fits inside my 20mm flex conduit...

 

[mickevh]

When OpenReach moved my master socket, they used some funky little things to crimp on the extra length if UTP (it happens to be cat5) "wire by wire" that looked a bit like the sort of "spade" connectors you use to get in car electrics kits, but I'm afraid I've no idea what they are called.

 

[adam-burnley]

Def seen little clear pvc bullet type connectors in a guys house when i was putting in a cat6 wall plate, bt engineer has used them in tagging onto phone extension. Cant seem to find any, I'm hoping to get something that fits inside my 20mm flex conduit...

Do you mean these... 2 Way BT Telephone Cable Repair Gel Filled Jelly Crimp Connectors Qty 1-50. A29 | eBay

 

[mickevh]

I think so - if I find some time later, I'll pop off the blanking and take a look.

 

[adam-burnley]

I used some when I "relocated" my master socket because it had originally been installed behind the door in the living room, nowhere near any electrical sockets! I've also just used a blanking plate so that I can easily convert it back to the master socket should I ever need to get BT out.

Anyway, those jelly crimp connectors are so easy to use, just insert the cable as far as they will go (no need to strip them) and press down on the pad using a pair of pliers. The metal grips inside will hold the cable firm, and the gel will go off and create a watertight seal.

I've also used them for speaker cable, much better than choc-blocks.

 

[daftpunk1]

And pliers will do the job?? This seller states one of these crimping tools are required but they look much like pliers...

 

[adam-burnley]

And pliers will do the job?? This seller states one of these crimping tools are required but they look much like pliers...

Yes pliers are fine.

 

[mickevh]

I think so - if I find some time later, I'll pop off the blanking and take a look.

Sorry - can't get into my "old" MS to see what OpenReach used - it'll create too much havoc with the decor.