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Most significant 2 channel hi-fi products.

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Buying & Building' started by Beobloke, Aug 5, 2005.

  1. Beobloke

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    Ok, following on from Tons of Fun's significant AV products thread, i thought i'd start one up for 2 channel equipment, although some have already been mentioned in the other thread!

    My votes -

    NAD 3020 - The first budget amp that didn't sound like it!
    Celestion SL6 - Personally don't like them, but they led the change from big, power-hungry, multi-drive unit 70's speakers ( :smashin: !!) to the small, simple 80's types ( :thumbsdow !!).
    Wharfedale Diamonds - did for small, budget speakers what the NAD 3020 did for budget amps.
    Quad ESL - for obvious reasons!
    Bang & Olufsen Beolab 5 - 2500W active speaker with acoustic lens technology for superb HF dispersion and built-in automatic active room correction - which works!
    Pioneer PL-12D - the first cheap and good quality turntable to come from the Japanese that beat the brits at their own game. It also helped Garrard's downfall, which is why i hate it on principle, if not on performance! :D
    Linn Sondek LP12 - whether you think it's over-rated or not, it made people think about system heirarchy and the importance of a good source.
    Technics SL1200/1210 - the DJ standard and the biggest selling turntable EVER.
    Bang & Olufsen Beocord 9000 - the first commercially available cassette deck with Dolby HX Pro, which really did help recording quality.

    Over to you lot................ ;)
     
  2. Ed Selley

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    Hmm- I'd say;

    Marantz CD-7 Probably the best old school CD player ever- even if you don't neccessarily like the way it sounds.
    Pro-ject Debut Obviously- we know that vinyl never died- it just went quiet for a bit. The Pro-ject certainly helped it come back though.
    Mission 700 Picked up the baton whilst the Wharfedale Diamond was having a low patch to be the seminal student bookshelf.
    Cambridge DAB300 Obviously it is a dissapointment what has happened to DAB. Back when it was a great white hope, the DAB 300 wasn't just a bit cheaper, it was half as expensive as the next unit- we sold thousands of them.
    My 2p.
     
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    The NAD 3020s that I've heard are now very old indeed and still sound excellent. :)
     
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    Denon TU260L tuner

    Marantz CD63 CD Player

    QED Silver speaker cable

    Rega Planner 3

    Mission 753's mmm all those drivers
     
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    rel subs...they were originally for music, weren't they..?
     
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    *Sits back and waits for Beobloke to erupt*
     
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    AR Cambridge A60 Amp a absolute clasck amp I bought one years ago and still use it to power my front computer speakers.Mission 763,

    Also Audiolab 8000 amp for years and years was the winner in its category of best amp. It still may well have been there today if Tag had not taken them over.

    Pioneer upside down CD platters play CD on a turntable rather than spinning them in the air.

    Sonab speakers devised to get rid of the sweet spot you get but front firing speakers, Castle speakers use a similar idea with there top of the rage speakers and have one top firing speaker. Although not giving as much pinpint accuracy does give a greater depth of field.
     
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    Mission Cyrus 2 amplifier.
     
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    yeah, I know technically it would make it 2.1 as opposed to stereo...but they certainly did enhance that enjoyment...

    to quote their website -

    "In the beginning...

    In the early 1990’s Richard Lord began experimenting with bass.
    He wanted perfect bass in his room, but couldn’t get it from the best conventional loudspeakers. They left him wanting more.
    The best big speakers sounded boomy, the best small ones could not reproduce the bass he knew existed.
    His hunch was that a dedicated bass loudspeaker would do the trick. But not any bass loudspeaker.


    ...Innvovation

    At the time, “subwoofers” were used extensively in PA rigs and some studios of course, but consumer versions were universally derided by the Hi Fi cognoscenti. As an audiophile, Richard Lord recognised the need for a new breed of sub-bass system, conceived, designed and built to audiophile standards, which would blend neutrally with any system, in any room, and reproduce the clean low frequencies vital to the faithful reproduction of music. To do this properly, he needed to match the bass driver with a dedicated, built-in amplifier, optimised to deliver maximum performance. Shortly afterwards, the first REL sub-bass system was launched to critical acclaim

    “REL’s products have had “supercar” status in the subwoofer market pretty much from day one.” Kulwinder Singh Rai T3 Magazine


    "
     
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    Oh it won't be the 2.1 bit :laugh:..................
     
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    *takes very deep breath................................aaaaaaaaaaand relax*
     
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    sorry...you've lost me.....
     
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    Atacama SE24 stands
     
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    Let us leave it at the fact that he gets a little riled over a certain Welsh bass radiator company.
     
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    ESL63's
     
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    Rogers LSa3 somethings
     
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    Nakamichi Dragon (there was another Nakamichi 300...???? that many prefered)
     
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    The CR7E was supposed to be the best sounding, but surely the RX202/505's have to be the funkiest for their "tape flipping" auto reverse! :smashin:
     
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    Personally, I would plump for the original 79 strand.


    Prior to forming Audiolab, Derek Scotland and Phil Swift were involved in the design of the Lentek integrated. It was supposed to be the vanguard of a range of electronics, but the TEK group went bust (I think) and Audiolab was formed. I’ve always had the feeling rightly or wrongly, that the 8000 was little more than a pared down Lentek.

    To my mind, with its custom cast powder coated heatsinks and flush mounted pushbuttons, it still looks the part. It was also possible, via links and switches on the back, to split the pre and power sections and match cartridges more accurately. However, contrary to some eBay ads I've seen (the odd one still appears now and then), it wasn't too tolerant of low impedance loads; at 60W per channel it was underpowered (some went the extreme of buying 3; bridge 2 for the power with the third acting as the pre); in my experience, it was unreliable - mine having to be returned on several occasions.



    Here I would actually plump for the 1000 ZXL, mainly because both the Dragon and CR7E are it's descendants. It sported an amazing array of innovations for the time including; auto set up (bias etc); tape type memory; RAMM (Random Access Music Memory). It blisteringly quick at winding and rewinding tapes, but stand back when pressing the eject button; there was no damping on the mechanism so it tended to act a bit like a toaster.




    And to add to the above;

    Firstly, Koetsu. The birth of the super moving coil cartridge.

    Secondly, Nelson Pass with his Threshold amplifiers. The birth of the super amplifier; well for us over on this side of the pond anyway.

    Transcriptors Hydraulic Reference Turntable. A true work of art (eat your heart out Linn).

    SME Tonearms. Ditto; though I must confess to never actually ever having owned one.

    The Zerostat antistatic gun.
     
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    Yes I have one of these NAD 3020s the early model.
    I remember a few years ago a workmate was doing a major upgrade to his Hi Fi setup, I have always remembered a comment he made to me when I asked him " how are you getting on with your new amp/cd player"?? His answer to me was, yea, ok,
    but if I was you I would stick with your NAD 3020.

    So I have, and I will continue to do so.
    Fantastic amp. :thumbsup:
     
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    AR EB101. Brought good quality suspended sub turntables into the 'affordable' arena.
    Cambridge CD2. Stans babies fell to pieces at the slightest cough, but my God they were good for the time. The 2' along with the CD94 showed what CD could be capable of at last.
    Roksan Xerxes. Broke Linns stranglehold in era when it was proving disastrous (CD's breakthrough).
    Kef 104/2. Still incredible 17 years on...........
    Audio technica ATF5. The budget MC that showed you didn't have to mortgage the house to get clear, refined, vinyl replay.
    Rega RB300. THE budget superarm. 20 years on, stil going strong.
    NAD 3020. One word - awesome. :D
    Yamaha KX-200. We sold these along with the KX-500 by the lorryload. Great decks, dirt cheap. Along with the budget Aiwas brought to an end the age of 'cotton wool' tape decks for the masses. ;)
     
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    Gyrodec / Rega RB 300 /Shure VM x MR awesome combination.

    Any Glen Croft valve product Vitale Vita Epoch Dakshini. Croft series v

    Croft modified Leak stereo 20

    There is only one thing to say the man is a genius

    Snell type k ideal for low powered valve amps
    Lowther horn loaded speakers
    Loth x Polaris horn loaded speakers
     
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    Pioneer A400.
    It was the first Japanese amplifier to have all the bells and whistles chopped off in favour of pure sound quality.

    Nothing touched it at 2 or even 3 times the price.
    Why did they stop making it? Everything since has been a backward step.
     
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    May be in the Japanese market but as I remember ite was over £200 and the Audiolab 8000 was £400, also Arcam hed some good stuff out as well.
     
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    Never rated it. It was hyped to death. We did blind listening tests on several customers to see if it was as good as the reviewers made out, and only one out of 20 chose it over the other test amps. Included amongst which were two cheaper amps........... never mind 2 or 3 times the price. ;)

    The original reviews which sparked the whole thing off were also revealed to have been done under dubious circumstances.

    You're right garrett, we sold it at £240. The MF B1 wiped the floor with it at that price.
     
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    Naim NAP250 - Still superb 20 years on.
    Quad 33/303 - Great Pre/Power combination from the 70s.
    Linn Isobarik - Love 'em or hate 'em. They certainly left an impression.
    Yamaha NS1000 - The first (and some would say the last) great Japanese speakers.
    Spendor BC1 - Wonderfully rich, though arguably not accurate sound.
    Rega Planar 2 - Little brother of the Planar 3. Bought quality LP playback to many who couldn't afford more expensive kit.
    Shure M75ED - The standard companion to the Pioneer PL-12D for many years.
     
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    Quad 303's - great when they worked!
     
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    Ls35a?
     
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    Magnaplaner electrostatics
     
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    Linn LK1: First micro processor controlled preamp, memory pre-sets IR controlled, balanced outputs..... No degradeable volume pots here.......now such technology is common as muck....wasn't in 86 (I think that's when it came out...could have been 87)

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