139 is very possible. That would be a $200 player converted to pounds with the same conversion as they did for the 360. ie $400 = 279 pounds. That would still keep the premium 360 + HD-DVD add on under the expected PS3 price of 425 but not by much.Nic Rhodes said:£139 in my bet.
Yup and if you take into account the PS3's 60GB HD, internal WI-FI, Blu-Ray drive etc, the PS3 looks like a bargain in comparison to the 360 with all the add ons!tryingtimes said:
lol... thats because you fell into the trap of not knowing what you get for your money You have to pay extra for inferior quality with the 360 (e.g buy a wi-fi adaptor, HD-DVD drive, bigger HD etc) but you get more advanced tech with all the add ons of the 360 included in the price of the PS3!Nic Rhodes said:An interesting statistic was published by Amir the other day, something like 65% (from memory) of X Box 360 owners have HD displays already. I suspect that pre 360 days then this number would be MUCH closer to zero. This bodes really well for this add on. PS3 will probably have to start from a much lower figure of HD display owners, I would expect.
Never thought of the PS3 as a bargain before
Thats the same tired argument that has been rolled out over and over again.tryingtimes said:
Sorry, that's still not correct.Noggin1980 said:There is no doubt that if you want everything in the PS3 then its good/great value but what percentage of people do want everything? It's not very high. Unless you want Wi-fi AND a next gen movie format then the 360 is better value
lol at last someone with some common sense!Evil Engineer said:Sorry, that's still not correct.
If you don't want Wi-Fi then you can always buy the lower spec PS3 which works out at approx £350 when using the same exchange rate as for the premium.
That's significantly cheaper than Xbox premium plus HD-DVD (£279+£140=£419). Which is the like-for-like comparison.
The cheapest possible way of getting HD-DVD would be a Core pack plus HD-DVD drive and a component cable (which isn't included with the core pack). Total cost=£210+£140+£20=£370.
Still more expensive than a basic PS3 and it doesn't have a hard drive.
Bottom line: Xbox is only cheaper if you don't want HD-DVD (perfectly reasonable, of course) or if you conveniently forget about the £210/£280 you paid last Christmas for the console.
Microsoft need a price cut or some pretty serious bundles to be price competitive. Unless they are happy to "look" cheaper with the headline price of the basic console without the add ons. After all, that's what they've already done with the core pack which is actually more expensive than the premium if you decide to buy the add ons at a later date.
Whoa there - there was absolutely no argument in my post.Noggin1980 said:Thats the same tired argument that has been rolled out over and over again.
I don't think I have to say anything do I?Noggin1980 said:Do we have to turn a 360 HD-DVD drive info thread into another PS3 vs 360 thread? we already have a forum for that endless arguement.
yes fair point on the basic PS3. Now that it looks like the studios won't be useing ICT the basic PS3 is a decent choice.If you don't want Wi-Fi then you can always buy the lower spec PS3 which works out at approx £350 when using the same exchange rate as for the premium.
The general consensus is that, despite industry paranoia prior to release, high def component output will be "allowed" for many years. Probably alot longer than the lifespan of the Xbox 360.through component HD cable would be ok for now but what about HDCP as and when it becomes an issue? No upscaling through component for HD is probably not an issue with HD-DVD, but worst case would be the HD VGA cable to avoid HDCP issues in the future?
Is the low spec PS3 available at launch in the UK now?If you don't want Wi-Fi then you can always buy the lower spec PS3 which works out at approx £350 when using the same exchange rate as for the premium.
I think that is a fairly safe bet. I honestly believe an Xbox 360 high def solution will workout somewhat cheaper than the PS3. As a side note it's interesting to read a survey of Taiwan gaming industry considers Microsoft's approach to high def is smarter than Sony's no choice integrated solution.As for the total price for a new purchaser, I think there is the possibility that Microsoft have got an idea that some competition is about to emerge and will no doubt bring about packages or price reductions that will ensure their product is competitive.
I dunno. Do we know the premium only at launch stories are anything more than internet rumour?Rasczak said:Is the low spec PS3 available at launch in the UK now?
We will only know whether if they are right on that one with the benifit of hindsight.Rasczak said:As a side note it's interesting to read a survey of Taiwan gaming industry considers Microsoft's approach to high def is smarter than Sony's no choice integrated solution.