Well I have had these bad boys for a couple of weeks , I still haven't set them up with mini dsp , but will soon , anyway at first I thought did i make a mistake as I wasn't getting the impact I was expecting, but that was down to audyessy (it took me a while to figure this out ), anyway the are majestic, the Bass is just excellent , music that sounded great on the Klipsch have hit another level, my sofa nearly took of .I am looking forward to doing REw / mini dsp as this will bring the best out of them , I also consider myself lucky as they are hard to get at the moment.