Well had the demo today, very underwhelming, disappointed with the performance of the demo equipment.
My own room is c.5m wide x 4m deep, carpet & curtains, i sit about 3m from the speakers facing tv LR speakers across the 5m width of the room. At home i am sitting considerably closer than the demo room.
Took a bluray concert Diana Krall, Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, Alison Krauss, Coldplay, James Taylor, Paul McCartney, and Adele & Oasis cd's.
Demo room was at a guess 6-7m deep x 5m wide
I was seated about 4m from speakers with 1-2m behind the sofa.
Room was untreated, one large window behind speakers with vertical blinds, carpeted.
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First set up:-
Monitor Audio 200 or 300 Gold, ribbon tweeter, were the closest match the dealer had to my MA PL200.
Cyrus 200 stereo amp with another Cyrus box.
http://www.cyrusaudio.com/products/power-amplifiers/stereo-200
Bass was ok
Treble/highs were very lean thin & screechy, volume was quite high to fill the room but not overly so.
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Second set up:-
Monitor Audio 200 Gold
Arcam A49
Bass, decent filled the room
Once again treble/highs were very lean thin & screechy as the volume increased.
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Third set up:-
Speakers were swapped for Dali Epicon 6, ribbon tweeter(c.£8K)
DALI EPICON 6
Arcam A49
Bass, decent filled the room again
Once again treble/highs were very lean thin & screechy.
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Fourth set up:-
Speakers swapped again just to hear something without a ribbon tweeter
PMC 24 i think
Arcam A49
Bass was good, but once again to my ears although the treble was slightly smoother than the other speakers it was still lean/thin and screechy.
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My conclusions are:-
My Yam1010 driving LR channels only PL200 at home sitting closer to the speakers in a much smaller room than the demo room are,.. compared to th MA Gold 200/300 better in the bass with bluray concert music i mentioned earlier and even the treble is smoother.
My PL200's have only been on about 6hrs(100hrs to run in).
It could be that to fill the demo room with sound the dealer may have had the volume too loud i'm not sure.
The only difference with my Yam1010 Pl200 set up and the demo amplifiers we could think of is that i use the manual setting EQ on the Yam to alter the treble and bass, actually i have the bass trimmed below flat as it's quite loud and have the treble up a notch or two.
The Cyrus/ Arcam amplifiers don't have bass/treble adjusters as don't many hi end amplifiers as i was repeatedly told as i asked a couple of times for the treble/highs to be turned down.
I'm sure at some stage a Naim amplifier was also used.
The Arcam £4k,.. Dirac was mentioned, i assume set up correctly.
Something must be amiss and i don't think it is my hearing, maybe the volume was just played too loud so as to fill a large demo room.
It appears what ever i choose to buy i prefer/REQUIRE manual or EQ adjustments which Yamaha's come with and probably other av receivers. For whatever reason the dealer didn't
offer to connect an avr or power amp up, there was no centre speaker or surround speakers in the room, was some in the ceiling Dolby Atmos was mentioned.
The dealer did mention Anthem av receivers and power amps but none were set up. The dealer has been business for over 40 years.
Looks like a power amplifier for me and possible avr upgrade pre/pro if today is to go by.
My own room is c.5m wide x 4m deep, carpet & curtains, i sit about 3m from the speakers facing tv LR speakers across the 5m width of the room. At home i am sitting considerably closer than the demo room.
Took a bluray concert Diana Krall, Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, Alison Krauss, Coldplay, James Taylor, Paul McCartney, and Adele & Oasis cd's.
Demo room was at a guess 6-7m deep x 5m wide
I was seated about 4m from speakers with 1-2m behind the sofa.
Room was untreated, one large window behind speakers with vertical blinds, carpeted.
......................................................
First set up:-
Monitor Audio 200 or 300 Gold, ribbon tweeter, were the closest match the dealer had to my MA PL200.
Cyrus 200 stereo amp with another Cyrus box.
http://www.cyrusaudio.com/products/power-amplifiers/stereo-200
Bass was ok
Treble/highs were very lean thin & screechy, volume was quite high to fill the room but not overly so.
........................................................
Second set up:-
Monitor Audio 200 Gold
Arcam A49
Bass, decent filled the room
Once again treble/highs were very lean thin & screechy as the volume increased.
.........................................................
Third set up:-
Speakers were swapped for Dali Epicon 6, ribbon tweeter(c.£8K)
DALI EPICON 6
Arcam A49
Bass, decent filled the room again
Once again treble/highs were very lean thin & screechy.
......................................................
Fourth set up:-
Speakers swapped again just to hear something without a ribbon tweeter
PMC 24 i think
Arcam A49
Bass was good, but once again to my ears although the treble was slightly smoother than the other speakers it was still lean/thin and screechy.
...........................................................
My conclusions are:-
My Yam1010 driving LR channels only PL200 at home sitting closer to the speakers in a much smaller room than the demo room are,.. compared to th MA Gold 200/300 better in the bass with bluray concert music i mentioned earlier and even the treble is smoother.
My PL200's have only been on about 6hrs(100hrs to run in).
It could be that to fill the demo room with sound the dealer may have had the volume too loud i'm not sure.
The only difference with my Yam1010 Pl200 set up and the demo amplifiers we could think of is that i use the manual setting EQ on the Yam to alter the treble and bass, actually i have the bass trimmed below flat as it's quite loud and have the treble up a notch or two.
The Cyrus/ Arcam amplifiers don't have bass/treble adjusters as don't many hi end amplifiers as i was repeatedly told as i asked a couple of times for the treble/highs to be turned down.
I'm sure at some stage a Naim amplifier was also used.
The Arcam £4k,.. Dirac was mentioned, i assume set up correctly.
Something must be amiss and i don't think it is my hearing, maybe the volume was just played too loud so as to fill a large demo room.
It appears what ever i choose to buy i prefer/REQUIRE manual or EQ adjustments which Yamaha's come with and probably other av receivers. For whatever reason the dealer didn't
offer to connect an avr or power amp up, there was no centre speaker or surround speakers in the room, was some in the ceiling Dolby Atmos was mentioned.
The dealer did mention Anthem av receivers and power amps but none were set up. The dealer has been business for over 40 years.
Looks like a power amplifier for me and possible avr upgrade pre/pro if today is to go by.
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