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Momitsu V880, Epson TW100 and Toy story 2. Outstanding.

Discussion in 'Projectors, Screens & Video Processors' started by Hugh, Jul 20, 2003.

  1. Hugh

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    Got my Momitsu V880 earlier this week. DVI cable turned up yesterday. Avia'd the TW100 and put in the Toy Story 2 disc in.

    What can I say? Absolutely fantastic. Unbelievably sharp image, with not a hint of edge enhancement or any other artifact. I have never seen a picture as good as this in my life. :D

    Quick question for anyone that has used this DVD player/projector combination. I set the player to output 480p through the DVI out, so that I could see which scaler to use, the player's or the PJ's. I filled the screen with the "Normal" setting, and I expected the "Through" to be smaller. It was, but only by a very small amount, maybe 10 - 20 pixels on all sides.

    Setting the DVD to 720p yeilded exactly the same results. Didn't try the 1080i.

    Am I doing something wrong? Very probable. :confused:

    Still a cracking picture though. So much more visible details, especially reflections. I could see the layout of Al's room by looking at the reflection in Woody's eyes :eek:
     
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    I am going to buy Tw100h and momitsu v880. Can you or somebody say to me as the best configuration for it, and if you have had any problem.

    This is the first time which I write in the forum, guauuuu

    Sorry by my bad english.

    Thankss
     
  3. Respectamonkeee

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    i've been using the V880 with a sony HS10 for a while now and been very happy with the results....dont have any black boarder issues tho.....can you zoom the picture in to get rid of them?
     
  4. Hugh

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    Respectamonkee,

    Yes I can zoom to get rid of them fine. So still mightily happy. :D

    I was just a bit puzzled. When selecting the 480i on the V880, I would have expected the "Normal" setting on the projector to have upscaled to 1280x720 filling the screen which it did (And lovely it was too). I'd have thought that selcting "Through" on the PJ and going 1.1 would have shrunk the picture down by (counts on fingers and toes) a third, which it didn't appear to do. Seemed to be much less than the 120 pixels on all sides that I was expecting.

    Also, gave the same results when outputting 720i from the V880.

    The 1080i doesn't produce a picture at all.

    Maybe it's down to the 10M DVI cable. I know it's above the recommended length, but I need that length. I thought sparklies were the first sign of overstreching the capabilities of DVI. I have no sparklies.


    Learza,

    Welcome to the forum.

    Watching anamorphic discs via the DVI cable gives the best picture I have seen. :clap:

    I'm guessing the WMP9 hi-def T2 would probably be better, but my PC wouldn't stand a chance of playing it without a complete rebuild. Not just yet. :)

    When using the DVI output you can only use the projector's "Normal" and "Through" modes. This is fine for anamorphic discs, but if you put in a non-anamorphic disc, you'll have a smaller image in the centre of the screen. The "zoom" option is not available. I send non-anamorpic films via s-video

    Also, there is a sync problem with the digitally transferred pro-logic signal. The DD5.1 is ok, but you'll need to send pro-logic soundtracks along an analog cable to your amp. All these quirks, I can live with for that picture quality. Mmmmmm

    I'll go now. I'm rambling on far too much
     
  5. Lefreck

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    Hello Hugh,
    I'm happy to find, at last, someone with an Epson TW100 and a Brainwave 880. I have the Epson running with a Philips 963 and am quite annoyed by the overscan. I did try with a htpc but didn't have the time and knowledge to adjust it correctly. A few days ago so from a german board sent me his brainwave dvd player to test. The built quality can't keep up with the Philips, but that's not the most important thing in this case. The picture quality via DVI (720p) is good, however I would like it to put out 720p @ 50Hz for Pal dvds. Do you know if this is adjustable via the DVI-menu? Oh yes, and how can I check the firmware version? Ihave the same findings concerning the "through" and "Normal" picture sizes. However I get a "black" border around the picture when I select through. What's funny is, that this isn't the same for every dvd... However, I don't seem to have the Prologic lag via Digital out (coax).
    Regards
    Thierry
     
  6. Hugh

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    Hi Thierry,

    I've heard talk of timing settings being adjustable in newer firmware upgrades on avs, but I've not seen them yet. firmware upgrades available from http://www.manowa.com.tw/dvdplayer880FW.html

    Your firmware version should be visible from the region select screen. Have no disc in the unit and press down, up, down, up, right, left.

    HTH
     
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    Thanks alot for the link, but I can't load the page, don't know why. Doesn't the 60Hz-output disturb you with Pal material?
     
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    Respectamonkeee,

    >>i've been using the V880 with a sony HS10 for a while now...<<

    Which settings are you using on both the V880 and the HS10? I tried 720P from the V880 via DVI and GBR on the HS10 and find the image too soft compared with the HCPC. With through mode on the HS10 is is better but doesn't use the full panel.

    TIA
     
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    I get a full screen image on all setting on my PJ cant off hand remeber wot setting i have it on....but i thinks its the 5th one down on set up...

    i'd go and look but i packed it away today as im moving...

    will report back when i have it set up again


    Must say tho that my display on 720 and 1080 is sharp

    have you tried it with Avia test patterns becuase you deffaintly get resolution gains
     
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    Thierry,

    No, I don't see any difference when viewing PAL or NTSC at 720DVI.

    What are the effects of viewing PAL at 60hz?

    I can see how watching at a lower setting would introduce a visible flicker, but when a higher rate is used, what is seen?
     
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    I got a test disc from Peter Finzel, a german video specialist, where you can see the effects from 60Hz on Pal very well. It's a kind of stuttering at horizontal travellings (hope these are the correct english terms.:blush: ).
     

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