djcla
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This is interesting and a little too easy , maybe keyless entry isnt so great
Car stolen without using a key
Car stolen without using a key
I believe the device they uses captures the code the key emits and keeps sending the code out so as far as the car is concerned the key is in the car so it does not stop when it goes out of range (although I could be wrong about that).How long until these cars are uninsurable? I've said it many times but I really don't get this one - why is it so hard to make it work? Why doesn't the car stop when it gets far enough away from the key? Why doesn't everyone who has this system disable it right now?
They wont become uninsurable but premiums may go up. My, first car, a mk1 ford fiesta could easily be opened with just a coat hanger - which was a good job given you could lock the car without the keys so they did get locked in it occasionally. Never an insurance problem.How long until these cars are uninsurable? I've said it many times but I really don't get this one - why is it so hard to make it work? Why doesn't the car stop when it gets far enough away from the key? Why doesn't everyone who has this system disable it right now?
But like you I don't get why SOME manufacturers don't get this sorted. It really isn't hard and not all of them are vulnerable like this...
I believe the device they uses captures the code the key emits and keeps sending the code out so as far as the car is concerned the key is in the car so it does not stop when it goes out of range (although I could be wrong about that).
I believe the device they uses captures the code the key emits and keeps sending the code out so as far as the car is concerned the key is in the car
They wont become uninsurable but premiums may go up. My, first car, a mk1 ford fiesta could easily be opened with just a coat hanger - which was a good job given you could lock the car without the keys so they did get locked in it occasionally. Never an insurance problem.
LOL The BBC is a bit late with that photo...I've seen it weeks ago...
But like you I don't get why SOME manufacturers don't get this sorted. It really isn't hard and not all of them are vulnerable like this...
Government has recently set up Flood Re as a reinsurance pool to assist on the flood front so that issue should be reducing.We live in a different age now - made to order thefts - cars straight to the boat and away. Some people have a very hard time getting their house insured due to high flood risk or subsidence risk - could see this going the same way.
I'm really starting to sound like my mum now but the really frustrating thing is the system it 'replaced' was so simple - just having to physically have the key in your hand to open the car!!! We've moved towards all this complexity and risk and arms race to mean you don't need to press a button a few times a day?
"Oh yes it's a lot more convenient, but just to be safe keep your keys in the (pub?) fridge and use one of those autolock things your grandad had."
We live in a different age now - made to order thefts - cars straight to the boat and away. Some people have a very hard time getting their house insured due to high flood risk or subsidence risk - could see this going the same way.
And they (can I say BMW?) have known this for many years...I'm really starting to sound like my mum now but the really frustrating thing is the system it 'replaced' was so simple - just having to physically have the key in your hand to open the car!!! We've moved towards all this complexity and risk and arms race to mean you don't need to press a button a few times a day?
"Oh yes it's a lot more convenient, but just to be safe keep your keys in the (pub?) fridge and use one of those autolock things your grandad had."
Looks like it - and Merc - who else?And they (can I say BMW?) have known this for many years...
Haven't seen anything about recent Mercs on this to be honest....I guess I could try itLooks like it - and Merc - who else?
It's the same as the premise of Battlestar Galactica - all the shiny new ships get hacked and destroy by the Cylons, while all the old school 'keys in the ignition' ships are unharmed as they are just too damned simple