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MJ Acoustics Reference 100

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by upallnight, Nov 20, 2003.

  1. upallnight

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    in say 2 weeks i will be getting a sub
    and this mj has caught my eye(due to reading up on it in these forums)
    i have kef thx fronts, so would this sub work well with them
    my room is about 4m by 4m
    im also looking at surrounds(would have got tdm34ds but they are to big for room)
    i have jamo surround 300s at the mo, but may change to mission for cosmetic reasons
    my only other choice was m&k k4 surrounds but they are a bit pricey

    thanks for looking
     
  2. Dimmy

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    It's no doubt a descent Sub, whether it's up to the THX standards of your Kef fronts is - well - Unlikely!

    Just IMHO.

    Be interested to know what amp you're using?
     
  3. upallnight

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    thanks for the reply
    what you you suggest(bearing in mind it needs to be a discreet size)
    the amp is a KENWOOD KRF-X9995D i got it exdem about 3 months ago for £800
    this one-http://www.homecinemachoice.com/testbench/frame.html?http://www.homecinemachoice.com/testbench/Amplifiers/Kenwood/KenwoodKRF-X9995D.shtml
    the sad thing is i havent heard these kefs yet as my amp died 1 day before they arrived(shorted out, should be back next week)
    still very bitter about it and cant wait to watch some dvds.
     
  4. Dimmy

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    Depending on your budget, B&W's ASW675 is a discreet subwoofer that would probably be able to do the rest of your kit full justice. It's a bit pricier than the MJ Acoustics you mention - but worth it IMHO (you can probably find it for £650).

    Other forum members can probably make other suggestions if you're looking for something more cost effective.
     
  5. upallnight

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    cheers dimmy
    i had a kef psw1000 before which i didnt like the sound of
    so i imagine the mj would be a big step up, at a reasonable price
     
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    No doubt - but you're not going to get anything like the visceral impact that more costly subs (and larger subs) can display with big movie soundtracks.

    Still, you'll get a well integrated 'tuneful' sound which will probably show considerable improvements over a PSW1000.
     
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    to match the rest of your kit I would get an MJ Reference 1. I have one and wouldn't settle for anything less now.
     
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    It's hardly a discreet subwoofer though is it?!
     
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    that is a beast
    but £700:eek:
    dont really want to go that far:eek:
     
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    How exactly does a Reference 1 "match" a KEF THX set up? I mean, the official matching sub is KEF's TDM45B - a great big sub with a 15" driver and a 300 watt amp. In other words it's a sub designed to move a lot of air as you might expect in a THX Ultra set up i.e. it's for movies plain and simple.

    The Reference 1 is a very nice sub but whether it's the best thing to slot into an out and out movie set up (and a THX Ultra one at that) is questionable IMO.

    You might find a TDM45B second hand (they do crop up now and again) - it's certainly a perfectly good sub for movies. If you want something that can move the same amount of air (and go just as deep) but that is a better overall performer then look at the Velodyne CHT15 and the various SVS offerings.

    The ideal substitute for the TDM45B would have been the Paradigm Servo 15 but, alas, they aren't available at the moment.

    Matt.
     
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    i have seen the kef sub for around£400
    but it is too big to accomidate unfortunatley
    i dont want to match to speakers perfectly, just get a good sounding sub, that i can be happy with
     
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    Don't get me wrong - there's no real tonal matching issue with subwoofers (as there is with other speakers) - all I was trying to get across was that a top THX package like your KEFs deserve something that can really move some air.

    With this in mind, and the fact that you want something not too big, then maybe the B&W ASW675 would be the best bet.

    Just a thought on your rear speaker issue too. The TDM34DS's are indeed big (I have a pair) but KEF also used to do a model called the 65DS which, basically, looked like a smaller version of the TDM's but was still a very good rear speaker. They don't crop up very often second hand but it would be worth keeping any eye out for them.

    Matt.
     
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    cheers matt f
    i will keep my eye out for these
    got around 2 weeks to decide anyway, maybe something in both departments will crop up
     
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    velodyne vx10
    how does this compare to a mj?
     
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    Hi Leigh
    If you can stretch to around 550 quid you would be able to import a svs pci-25-31 or pb1-isd subwoofer that would perform way above anything that you would buy in this country and you would probably be satisfied for a long time,it is a waste of money getting somthing just for the sake of it, stretching your budget will ensure that you will be happy with the subs performance for a long time.
    Cheers Gonzo.
     
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    i have seen these talked about
    where is info on them
    and where to buy from?
     
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    Poorly if you have any interest in music.

    We seem to be going from one extreme to another. The VX-10 is a budget midwoofer whereas the SVS PCi is larger, slightly more expensive and several leagues above the VX-10 in ability.

    Chalk and cheese comes to mind
     
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    unless i want to spend massive amounts the mj seems a safe bet at the moment
     
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    That seems to be the consensus. You'll probably have to spend double the cost of the MJ to get a subwoofer to do your setup justice. But don't want to spend that much...
     
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    ...and will probably more than double upon the performance of the MJ by doing so...
     
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    i see what you are saying dimmy
    maybe the b&w is the way to go as size would be a problem
    otherwise i would get the kef tdm45 sub
    the problem is i dont know loads about subs
    maybe i just havent experienced a good one in my home!
     
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    leighprice - I certainately wouldn't recommend you buy a subwoofer on our guidance alone.

    But the calibre of subwoofer forum members will recommend will probably be invariably ideal for your setup. In this case, I definitely believe subwoofers of the calibre of the B&W, CHT-15, SVS are what you'll need to do the rest of your kit justice.

    Since space is a constraint, the B&W makes the most sense. Do audition it first though, being a B&W it'll probably be quite easy to find a local dealer who has it in stock for Demo.

    Although I'm pretty much certain you'll be sufficiently impressed :).
     
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    thanks for your help dimmy
     
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    Hi leigh
    If you are going to spend upwards of 600 notes i would still think about the svs pci-model.I have owned the B&W asw675 and it is a very good sub which wouldnt disappoint you,the svs cylinder models only take up the same floor space as a small sub does but they are tall,Stellavision off this forum swapped his pci model for the asw675 because of earache from the misses and he freely addmiitted the svs was a better performer but was willing to compromise to keep everyone happy.
    Hope this helps Gonzo.
     

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