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Mitchell & Brown 49-inch 4K LED LCD TV Review & Comments

ozzzy189

Distinguished Member
Low input lag, normal and game mode both say 33ms in the review.
Seems reasonable but that's not good enough in the ultra competitive area that they're targeting.
Hisense would beat this hands down.
 

Steve Withers

Distinguished Member
Anything below 40ms is considered good and 29ms in Game mode seems very good to me. I know some manufacturers are getting the lag down to 20ms but I don't personally believe that anyone could tell a difference of 10ms.
 

Loopthrough

Prominent Member
Interesting to see you guys covering these low-end brands, but I don't see why this warrants any score above 5-6/10.

It would also be interesting to see how some of the low-end non-Android Sonys perform when tested. I had a play around with a WD/E75 FHD 49" which uses a panel which I'd never seen before, a BOE IPS/ADS panel (great left/right viewing angle, terrible up/down viewing angle, low contrast but a little higher than typical IPS), and has no CMS. It had blue whites even in Warm, but apart from those issues a very good picture for its place in the market. It used a Mediatek SOC with a slight Sony tweak (presumably to still call it X-Reality PRO), and apart from the lack of contrast, archaic apps and no CMS still managed to impress as a non-main room TV. Amazon had the 49" for 400 as a DOTD last weekend.

They're still selling those FHD ranges in high numbers. I know this site is aimed at the enthusiast, but it would be interesting to see some of those mass market models make the test bench too IMO.

I'd also like to see reviews of Panasonic EX700 (I'm sure the 50Hz stutter is still there as it's still a slow Innolux panel and Novatek SOC I'll bet!), Sony XE7000-series (must be like the 4K version of that WE75?) and one of the LGs that uses an Innolux VA panel (e.g. 58"). Any chance of these?
 

Steve Withers

Distinguished Member
Interesting to see you guys covering these low-end brands, but I don't see why this warrants any score above 5-6/10.

It would also be interesting to see how some of the low-end non-Android Sonys perform when tested. I had a play around with a WD/E75 FHD 49" which uses a panel which I'd never seen before, a BOE IPS/ADS panel (great left/right viewing angle, terrible up/down viewing angle, low contrast but a little higher than typical IPS), and has no CMS. It had blue whites even in Warm, but apart from those issues a very good picture for its place in the market. It used a Mediatek SOC with a slight Sony tweak (presumably to still call it X-Reality PRO), and apart from the lack of contrast, archaic apps and no CMS still managed to impress as a non-main room TV. Amazon had the 49" for 400 as a DOTD last weekend.

They're still selling those FHD ranges in high numbers. I know this site is aimed at the enthusiast, but it would be interesting to see some of those mass market models make the test bench too IMO.

I'd also like to see reviews of Panasonic EX700 (I'm sure the 50Hz stutter is still there as it's still a slow Innolux panel and Novatek SOC I'll bet!), Sony XE7000-series (must be like the 4K version of that WE75?) and one of the LGs that uses an Innolux VA panel (e.g. 58"). Any chance of these?
We'd like to review more lower tier TVs and we will where we can. However there are two issues, first we are currently dependent on the manufacturers to provide the majority of review samples and they have spent the last few years concentrating on higher tier models and larger screen sizes. Secondly we only have finite resources, so we often need to concentrate on the most popular models.
 

1080 jawbreaker

Prominent Member
looks like the kind of tv that would be popular in Bright House.

Have any Vestel made TV's ever been any good. Seams like there TV's are just turds with different labels on. I would rather read a book and save £500 than watch there TV's.
 

ozzzy189

Distinguished Member
Anything below 40ms is considered good and 29ms in Game mode seems very good to me. I know some manufacturers are getting the lag down to 20ms but I don't personally believe that anyone could tell a difference of 10ms.
You said the two figures were different but then quoted 33ms for both modes Steve. That's what I was referring to.
 

babator

Established Member
TCL televisions would be perhaps more interesting to review than Vestel ones, since TCL seems to actually have some picture quality ambitions.
 

Mercurial

Established Member
£649 for 49"? Not going to be selling many of those then.
Is this a Mitchell & Brexit TV?
 
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MikeTVMikeTV

Prominent Member
Wow, 7/10 is extremely generous considering you can currently get a LG or Samsung 49" TV from £419 and £499 and much much better equipped TVs score 8/10 for having poor local dimming or not as wide colour gamuts or native 10bit panels.

Did they let you keep the TV?
 

Phil Hinton

Editor
Staff member
Did they let you keep the TV?
All TVs (and review samples for other items) are returned once the review is done. If I could I would remove the scores from the TV reviews as you really need to read what is being said, not just look at a score card and then troll.
 

babator

Established Member
All TVs (and review samples for other items) are returned once the review is done. If I could I would remove the scores from the TV reviews as you really need to read what is being said, not just look at a score card and then troll.
A good and professional answer, especially considering that at least I would be rather offended at any suggestion that a pro TV reviewer and ISF calibrator could be bribed with a Mitchell & Brown television :p
 

stevelup

Distinguished Member
I too wish the score card went away, it's all but absurd.

I cannot for the life of me see how this is a 7. Out of the box, it's rubbish, then it's impossible to calibrate. Then, finally to rub salt in the wound, it's hundreds of pounds more expensive than better alternatives yet scores 7 out of 10.

The problem is that some people will just look at the score without digesting the detailed review.
 

AintBigAintClev

Standard Member
Very are advertising a Luxor 49" 4K set which has an identical rear panel. Likely to be identical functionally or are there likely to be differences?
£349 at Very (down from £399). Alternatively it's £449 at Littlewoods (down from £509) even though Very and Littlewoods are the same company.
 

Loopthrough

Prominent Member
Very are advertising a Luxor 49" 4K set which has an identical rear panel. Likely to be identical functionally or are there likely to be differences?
£349 at Very (down from £399). Alternatively it's £449 at Littlewoods (down from £509) even though Very and Littlewoods are the same company.
Same thing. All Vestel built badged sets.
 

pantages

Established Member
The identical sets are on sale in Curry's with the JVC label. You do get what you pay for!
 

albani

Established Member
Just forget/ignore it!

Made in VESTEL-Turkey
actually "assembled" in Turkey!

There is no any production here in Turkey just they imported all materials thru China
and assembled on their located Manisa Factory

All are fake Brands,except some of them such as Toshiba

++
 

pantages

Established Member
It seems to me that messrs Mitchell & Brown bought a job lot of these TV's, chose a smart bezel and a fancy font, and then sought dealers who would sell them This same tv is found with many brand names attached but they are not a premium tv by any stretch of the imagination. If you see a tv with a chassis that includes SCART - avoid it!
 

Tim2049

Prominent Member
I too wish the score card went away, it's all but absurd.

I cannot for the life of me see how this is a 7. Out of the box, it's rubbish, then it's impossible to calibrate. Then, finally to rub salt in the wound, it's hundreds of pounds more expensive than better alternatives yet scores 7 out of 10.

The problem is that some people will just look at the score without digesting the detailed review.

I'd second any drive to be rid of the scores. Too dependant on context as you say. Arguably misleading when it comes to 'at a glance' browsing however. To the extent where, for me personally, I'll no longer be reading any of your hardware reviews. I've recently found one or two of them to be terribly misleading unfortunately.
 

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