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Mini review Servo15/SVS 20-39PC+

Discussion in 'Subwoofers' started by chris, Aug 28, 2003.

  1. chris

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    Well i have spent all afternoon, turning the living room up side down, just to find a good place for the sub.

    I have (after 3 hours) found it.....:clap: :clap:

    It is at the back of the room in the gap between the chimney and the wall....tucked in the corner next to the settee where i sit......i now have amazing bass comming from the SVS.
    But i also get amazing bass from the Servo 15:rolleyes: .

    I reset everything...set all the levels up again.
    Equipment is :
    Pioneer 656 (2900 is still at haydens :mad: )
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    B+W 602s2, B+W CC6s2, B+W LM1
    Tosh 42PW23P

    The first thing i tried was Titan AE...the ice field chapter.....OH MY GOD....the SVS is actually doing what it is sopposed to do......:D
    I switched over to the Servo 15, checked the levels and tried again......
    OH MY GOD...that sounds/feels beter.
    To me, in my room, the Servo just pipped the SVS.
    Next was blade 2 (the house of pain).
    First the Servo......" OH misses come and listern/feel this"...her response from the kicthen..." I CAN ALREADY....TURN IT DOWN".
    THe SVS had the same affect with this one.
    The next one was TOY STORY 2....the start.....
    The SVS....OH YES...i remember it doing that in TK's room.
    Change to the Servo....OH....that feels slightly better.
    THe Servo wins again (But there is hardly anything in it).

    I then tried some music.

    First i put on SEAN PAUL, Track 4, Like Glue......
    The SVS is pumping well, But the Servo just seems to be a bit faster and keeps up perfectly with the track.
    I then get a shout from the kitchen...." TRY MY CELINE DION DISK".
    It is the SACD Version.....i try the tracks i sought of like.....first track 7 (What ever it is called).....this sounds good with both Subs..But the Servo still seems to be a bit quicker than the SVS...next i try track 12 (First time i saw you face...or something like that)......Both subs do a good job with it and i cannot find any diff between the 2.

    SO there you have it (according to my room)...this was a sorce test and not a SPL graph test (maybe that would be diff).
    But the prob i have now is....which one to get rid of......there is not a lot of difference and i like them both, but i have not got enough room for both..??:confused:

    The misses prefers the Servo over the SVS..so maybe she will get her way....but the SVS has a lot smaller foot print...i'm in love with both of them...maybe i should just alternate them....the servo on Mon,Wed, Fri and the SVS on Tue, Thur, Sat and then Sunday can be my day of rest.
     
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    Sell the SVS, and buy another Servo-15? 2 x Servo-15s, mmmm......:)
     
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    I trust you'll be selling whichever one you don't keep on the forums ??? :)
     
  4. chris

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    I've been sitting here all everning trying to find a space to but the SVS.....
    I've suggested Getting rid of all the kids toys....maybe get rid of the furniture....or get rid of the cabniet with all her family photos in.
    NOW....She dont mind what i have in here.....up to a piont.
    SHE just wont agree on getting rid of anything...so if i cannot evern fit the SVS in, then i have got no chance with another MONSTER 15.
    I would love to have another one thow.....
    Think the only thing left is to get a divorce and get my own flat/house.
     
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    Don't confuse loudness and/or boominess with quality of bass. You did say you prefer the Paradigm PDR subwoofer over the SVS.. are you making the same mistake with the Servo and the SVS? Live with both for a couple of weeks, using them for music & films.
     
  6. chris

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    I would think so...but i am not sure how long it is going to take me to decide.
    The other day i thought.....that is it...i am getting rid of the SVS, but then i looked at it and just could not bring my self to do it.....so i thought CRAP....i will have to sell the Servo.....but then i looked at that and it all started over again.....and the Servo does make a good picture stand and it is just the right hieght as a BEER table.
     
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    Never thought I'd read that in the same post.
    TBH Neither is a particularly good test of low end accuracy, I'm surprised the Servo sounds any different from the SVS in this regard. You really need some serious industrial/electronica/nu-metal for that sort of thing.

    I like Aphex Twin for testing subwooferage.:devil:
     
  8. chris

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    I never said, i prefered the PDR to the SVS.....i have always said that i cannot see £600 worth of difference between the SVS and PDR-10....where i had it placed in my room, was the same place the PDR-10 was......i noticed it went lower than the PDR when useing the Avia disk......but there was no diff when playing films with low end bass.
     
  9. chris

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    I have not got that one...but i have got STEPS greatest hits.........will that do....:laugh:
     
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    Strange that in the US the Servo 15 is twice the price of the SVS but in the UK it's about £300 cheaper, despite Richer Sounds' questionable reputation regarding customer service one has to hand it to them for selling arguably the greatest bargain in UK AV history....................all IMO of course.
     
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    Chris,

    Fancy bringing along your Servo-15 for a shoot-out against the HGS-18? :D

    Or you could hire a van and bring both lol.
     
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    Hi Chris, thanks for the mini-review...good reading. And of course, we are very glad to hear the SVS seems to be performing better for you now!

    Apocalypse,

    I agree. At 399 pounds, or even 499 pounds...the servo15 is a great bargain over there...just a wonderful subwoofer for that cost!

    Tom V.
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    As many of you will know i use 4 Servo's and have devoted much time to playing with (and owning i might add) many sub's encompassing many design/size/price ranges and in my honest opinion there just seems to be some brute reluctance/resistance to people accepting the fact that this RS sourced lump is, when correctly set up is about as good as it gets before entering the real serious money end of things.
    I would (until a short while ago) flatter myself on being able to buy more or less any sub i fancied and as of yet have not found anything that makes me want to change them given my requirements.
    Of course there is better - no doubt about it, but at the sort of prices that would make most of us wince.
    This IS the bargain, not of this year but of the last 3 years in HC land.
    If i could possibly justify it, i would buy another four to put in the roof space for a rainy day.

    Regards

    Steve.
     
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    In your opinion would you rate a velodyne over a simiarly priced subwoofer from rel?
     
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    I've thought this for ages, that Paradigm suffer from the 'Richer reputation', ever since getting a PS1000 from Richer Sounds 4-5 years ago. At the time it destroyed anything else in the £200 bracket.
    Paradigm could really do with better distibution..... but then of course the price would go up.
     
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    Paradigm via RS is an unbeatable combo, I'm willing to suffer the long delays and dodgy order system if it means I can continue filling up my room with Paradigm's finest speakers.

    Tom V - Your non-biased views are a breath of fresh air in this business and on these forums :smashin:
     
  17. Phil Hinton

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    Seconded. Far less tripe talked these days.:laugh: :smoke:
     
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    Respect must go to Tom V, decent guy.
     
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    *feels the love*:D

    And yes I agree too....
     
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    Black Magic.

    Unfortunately i have no experience over any of the newer/smaller Velo's but have listened to every Rel in existance (more or less) in some depth, what i can tell you is a friend has the £2500ish? Rel Stentor and we took a single Servo unit over as a direct side by side comparison and found the Servo to be preferable in both extension/spl/ and in my opinion accuracy.
    I have often said with Rel IMHO it is a bit of a no brainer a la' Kef etc their products are (to the greater extent) superbly built and capable performers that are in no way embarressed by 90% of the competition, what they do they do well and can be considered as safe money, there is however better products, perhaps not so easily sourced as just walking into your local Sevenoaks, that will cost less. To the discerning commercial sub enthusiast you may consider Rel to be somewhat overpriced by some competitors, to the Joe on the street Rel is a mile past the Yamaha/Gales/Mordaunt's from Curry's/RS etc etc.


    Regards

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    Does anyone know the dimensions of a Servo 15 ?
     
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    I thought about getting a Servo 15- certainly a good price at £400 (but I would prefer Cherry veneer finish)- using Room Arranger in 3D shows that's a bit too big.. the Storm is fine, and the SVS Cylinder's are OK too.

    Servo dimentions...

    50cm x 46cm x 58cm
    20in x 18 x 23in
     
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    Nathan whats room arranger? I need to plan out my new AV room:)
     
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    Here...

    http://www.roomarranger.com

    It's helped LOADS... I've created objects the size of various subs (Velo CHT-15, HGS-15/18, SVS Cylinders, SVS Box, Rel's) and I placed one at a time in the subwoofer area. I thought a HGS would fit- but I can visually see how big it is.

    Oh yeah to view in 3D you'll need a VRML client- Cortona is one.
     
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    Thanks, using it now to plot everything out in my room:)
     
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    Guys, anyone know what happened to the Paradigm website? Used to be at www.paradigm.ca - not there anymore! Have they moved, or is it down? Trying to get me hands on specs for the Servo-15...

    Dunc
     
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    Still there, just been updated.

    Oh boy does the signature series look good :cool:
     
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    I'm a little confused, the servo 15 is the reference product listed on the Paradigm site correct? One of the reviews quotes the price for the Servo being $899 less than the Velo FSR-18 and competing very closely with it. I'm not sure how much that is but I find it very surprising that the servo is available for £399.

    I was seriously considering a SVS PC+ 20-39 but after this review I'm not sure. It sounds like I would get a substantial step up from my CHT-10 for not much money.
     
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    What part of the site are you looking at :confused:

    Daneel - Your eyes do not deceive you, at £399 I'll repeat my quote that it's the best bargain in UK AV history. If I hadn't allready got a decent sub I'd get 2 Servo 15s in a heartbeat.
     
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    Flash intro in a new window, however I'd seen them before in SMR's CEDIA/CES photos.

    Now I just wish they could get a distributor who actually distributes.
     

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