Men to face 6PM curfew...?

BigA1

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The role can and should be fulfilled by any and all that are competent in line with the required standards.
 

Reglip

Standard Member
“next” really ?

Maybe the standards need reassessing as they have done through time regardless of peer reviews . Having worked with firefighters having a mixed workforce there were certainly no issues about competency or skills .

 

HeavySaurus

Well-known Member
tashekis castle and Private Benjamin aren’t necessarily the best way to illustrate a point
Not to mention that firefighters can also use rams and crowbars and other tools to break down doors. The way that seesaw in the show is designed is to favour body mass, you don't have to be fit or strong to tip it, just heavy. In full gear she would have the weight necessary to get through that easily.

And a team with different strengths is a better team. If everyone was a 6ft3 brickhouse they'd get into a whole lot of trouble fitting through tight spaces.
 
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richp007

Distinguished Member
These numbers are out-fudgeing-rageous.


And damn right as well.



It's abhorrent that we're failing so badly on this.
 

BlueOrange25

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It's abhorrent that we're failing so badly on this.
It's astonishing that victims are failed on three fronts: the police, support in the community and the criminal justice system.

Domestic abuse isn't a (relatively) new thing like social media/online abuse. Shameful that the policies and services have been failing.

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EDIT: on a different point, this thread has (rightfully) evolved into one about violence against women.

Not sure how others feel, but does anyone feel the thread title could/should be amended to better reflect the discussion?
 

richp007

Distinguished Member
It's astonishing that victims are failed on three fronts: the police, support in the community and the criminal justice system.

Domestic abuse isn't a (relatively) new thing like social media/online abuse. Shameful that the policies and services have been failing.

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EDIT: on a different point, this thread has (rightfully) evolved into one about violence against women.

Not sure how others feel, but does anyone feel the thread title could/should be amended to better reflect the discussion?

Yes I was thinking that myself. Not sure what to, will have a think.

On the subject matter though it is shameful. Not saying other countries etc are better, it's a worldwide issue. Doesn't make it any better though.

It's a taboo subject, and because it goes on behind closed doors it's another out of sight out of mind issue for many people I'd say. And unfortunately the authorities and legal system too.

And those numbers are likely not the full picture. I dread to think how much more prevalent it actually is.
 

LakieLady

Well-known Member
It's astonishing that victims are failed on three fronts: the police, support in the community and the criminal justice system.

Domestic abuse isn't a (relatively) new thing like social media/online abuse. Shameful that the policies and services have been failing.

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EDIT: on a different point, this thread has (rightfully) evolved into one about violence against women.

Not sure how others feel, but does anyone feel the thread title could/should be amended to better reflect the discussion?

I'm afraid I don't find it at all astonishing. An awful lot of people are still misogynistic, still victim blame women for the way they dress, for being out late at night, for being drunk. A lot of police officers still regard DA as a private matter, as "he said, she said", and don't want to get involved.

I think I have mentioned upthread that my local force, Sussex, are excellent in the way they deal with DA and record every contact with victims on bodycams, as part of building a body of evidence. But further along the criminal justice route, the courts still hand down pathetic sentences.
 

Derek S-H

Distinguished Member
I think I have mentioned upthread that my local force, Sussex, are excellent in the way they deal with DA and record every contact with victims on bodycams, as part of building a body of evidence. But further along the criminal justice route, the courts still hand down pathetic sentences.
Sussex Police have had to up their game, I think, because of this high-profile case:


It's terrible it took this to happen before they did, but at least they appear to be taking women seriously now. If I'm wrong about this, then I apologise.
 

WeeScottishLass

Distinguished Member
I think the help needs extended to men too as they seem to be forgotten about a bit.

I know this is a thread mainly about women but I watched a programme about how there is even less help available and safe places for men to go.

I think there is only 2 refuges for them and it's perhaps even more difficult for a man to admit they are being hurt by their partner (women and men).
 

MrsArcanum

Distinguished Member
I think the help needs extended to men too as they seem to be forgotten about a bit.

I know this is a thread mainly about women but I watched a programme about how there is even less help available and safe places for men to go.

I think there is only 2 refuges for them and it's perhaps even more difficult for a man to admit they are being hurt by their partner (women and men).

There is a storyline covering abuse of a male by a female on Casualty. Really well done, showing how a very strong character can be coercively controlled into submission, putting up with and excusing their partners violence.
 

WeeScottishLass

Distinguished Member
There is a storyline covering abuse of a male by a female on Casualty. Really well done, showing how a very strong character can be coercively controlled into submission, putting up with and excusing their partners violence.
Yes, casualty can be really good for highlighting these things.

This documentary is currently on channel 5 catch up and called When Women Abuse Men, if anyone wants to watch it.

It tells the experiences of 3 men and I think 2 who were killed by their female partners.

It was a while ago I watched it though but well worth watching to see how some of the men are treated differently in comparison to women.

Although this is hopefully changing but certainly needs more awareness, that men too, can end up in horrific relationships and can be killed by their partners.

They need just as much help and places to go too and to be believed.
 

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