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Media PC instead of DVD-HDD recorder

Discussion in 'Blu-ray & DVD Players & Recorders' started by peejay2, May 8, 2005.

  1. peejay2

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    I am tired of waiting for the DVD-HD recorder that fulfills all the characteristics we are expecting:

    - Built in digital tuner
    - Good editing capabilities
    - etc

    What would you think of using one of these "cube" media PCs for the functions of a DVD-HD? I think you can fulfill all with them, digital tuner included (there is a TV tuner card from Pinnacle, analog + digital)
     
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    Those things are pretty tight for space and expansion - so if you managed to stuff it with a fast CPU, decent GFX card and digital tuner card you'd be looking at dissipating a lot of heat == lots of fan noise.

    Additionally they just don't have the 'ease of use' of conventional consumer electronics. I have a couple of computer-enthusiast mates who both tried to put together digital recorder/player PCs for use directly on the TV and whilst they work after a fashion, they are a lot more cumbersome to use for virtually all tasks. Of course they used Linux and regular WindowsXP respectively with their own mix of commercial and home brew software so maybe a PC equipped with the Windows XP Media Centre version might be better.

    I don't see the problem with having seperate sets of gear for PC and Home Cinema use. Use the consumer gear for suitable tasks and when you need something specialised or extra-complicated use your PC.


    Gav
     
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    Have you considered a PVR such as the new Topfield model. You can use it for every day recording, it has twin digital tuners, 160Gig HD and you can transfer to and from a PC via USB. So you could backup anyhting you want to keep to DVD.
     
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    Sounds good. I'll have to look at that model - is the file transfer of the original DVB transmission or is it re-encoded in some way? What programme do you use to convert it into DVD compliant video (PVRStrum?).
     
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    I would certainly be interested in seeing how both machines handle comparatively the invalid (DVD) screen resolutions and long GOP structures currently coming off Mux A, often on ITV3. Along with other bogus info, such as 16Mbps bitrate in the file headers, these deliberate alterations are proving to be an impediment to overall playback compatibility of such recordings in some DVD players.
     
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    Just brought one - will do a full set a tests next Saturday (I'm away until then).
     
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    I have a Shuttle PC running Windows Media Center 2005, and it is a fab piece of kit.

    Advantages - everything in one box, so live tv, recorded tv, dvd playback, dvd recording, music, radio, the internet, photos, e-mail, full access to windows, sharing media files over the home network - all in the lounge on the plasma screen and sound through a 5.1 amp. There is lots of support available online if you do have problems.

    Disadvantages - it's not cheap and it takes patience and time to build and configure correctly.

    The Shuttle has one AGP slot and one PCI slot, but I have added an external powered USB2 hub and can connect extra devices that way - including extra tv tuners, that can then be hidden away.

    lisa
     
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    Yes, MCE2005 supports dual tuners.

    What do you use for an EPG, btw?
     
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    Lisa

    I'm going to be building my own Windows Media PC and would like to ask a few questions.

    Can I watch one station whilst recording another thru WMPC?

    I was wondering about the best way of hooking the WMPC up to my Plasma - I have a Panasonic PWD7 currently using a JS VGA Convertor box. What route would you suggest? I was wondering about getting a DVI board for the Panny but was unsure if the board would cancel out the VGA connector or whether they work together.

    I have a Pioneer 2014 amp on the way to me - perhaps I could push all my video feeds through that?

    What video card & capture card do you recommend and a link to a site selling them would be greatly appreciated.

    Many thanks

    CrazyAl
     

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