Discussion in 'Home Entertainment Computers' started by shezzy2k, Mar 23, 2005.
About to order...any opinions?
Looks like a fantastic bit of kit, this could be exactly what I'm looking for also
I agree with Neelix, looks great
It also looks expensive.
I like how the floppy drive is tucked out of sight at the back.
Works out at approx £435 with all accessories including Vat & shipping to UK.
The accessories are a passive PSU, VFD & infrared module and remote, and CPU passive heatpipe cooler.
Seems like pretty good value to me as heatsink cases go.
No UK dealers yet, but I understand that Kustom PC's is a UK distributor of their products.
Only downside is no availability before 20th May.
These cases are getting better looking and more availible. Soon the prices will start falling to a more respectable level. I wish it would hurry up....
Tell you what they get very very hot
I dont care what design the case has but if you are using a Passively cooled PSU, Passively cooled GFX Card, no case fans, and passively cooled CPU you can expect idle temps of 60c on CPU and Hard drive
You might get away with that, but you wont want to stress it too much
I know as i just built a PC with all those aspects i have ordered a m cubed Automated fan controller which i will use to control 3 case fans (2 at the back and 1 on the case floor)
Hopefully i should be able to get silent without heat issues
Interesting...Which case, CPU, and PSU did you use that gave you those temps?
Lovely case...not so lovely price
You could buy a AV reciever for a £200-£300 which has a nice case, display and remote. £400 is way too much for an empty box, remote and a psu. I recon in a year or so the prices will be around the £100 mark and there will be more competition from other manufacturers. These cases are definately thre future, but not the high prices.
I agree in principle that prices are higher than they should be, but your "AV receiver" point is not comparable as this performs a different function to what you would use a HTPC for. I am intending to use the machine as a one box music server for my 400+ CD collection, and as a DVD player. This will be connected to an AV receiver for amplification, and video passthrough.
I rationalise the price against other competitors in the market place...
If you look at this page HERE and HERE you will see that HTPC cases of a similar specification (ie. VFD & remote support) cost approximately £200.
The HFX case including VAT at the current exchange rate comes to £204.
You do not have to, but you can choose to passively cool your CPU at a cost of approx £55. Or you can cool you CPU with a regular heatsink/fan.
You do not have to, but you can choose to run a passive PSU at a cost of approx £93. (The cheapest that I have seen this particular or any passive PSU in the UK is @ £100+) Note that you can also run any standard ATX PSU in this case if you care to.
This case can utilise the IRmon remote control & VFD unit as sold at Specialtech for £75 at an approximate cost of £62, and again you can choose to do without.
Overall the case can cost a lot less depending on the options you choose, and when you compare it to other heatsink/fanless cases such as The Hush ATX, A-Tech Heatsync case, and I think that Vantec made a silent tower that I recall was about £800+; I feel that in the current market this case is cracking value for what you get.
Silverstone Case LC03V
Zalman 350Watt PSU (Fanless)
Athlon 64 3500
Gigabyte 6600 Fanless Graphics Card
I was looking at the silverstone cases but heard alot of overheating complaints and fried hardware.
You will have overheating problems in any any case if its not got enough cooling,
Right now i am using 1 60MM rear fan and a 80MM Front fan on the silverstone running at half speed,
Temps are very good considering i have everything fanless
temperatures from their site - excuse the formatting...
Temperatures Mode Example CPU usage Room CPU MB HDD
Idle 24h Internet 5% 23° 37° 38° 43°
TV Watch and record 30% 23° 44° 39° 45°
DVD Shrink Backup of DVD 100% 23° 57° 40° 45°
ASUS A8V deluxe, 512MB Dual RAM, ATI Radeon 9600 passive, AMD 64 3500+ Winchester, NEC DVD-ROM,
Samsung Spinpoint 200GB 7.200 rpm, Soundblaster Audigy 2, Netgear WLAN PCI, Vertical Silence HDD Box,
Nightjar 300W PSU fanless, Borg Heatpipe processor cooler, WinTV PVR-150, iMon VFD
I dont think 3d gaming will be feasible unless you can find a vga heatpipe cooler and strap it onto the right hand heat sink but those temps do seem to imply that "normal" htpc operation shouldnt be a problem....
the proof is in the pudding I guess
shezzy - if possible can you post some impressions once you get it? would be much appreciated
so have you actually ordered one...? if so from whom..?
if you have i'd be interested in knowing how you get on - seems like a good case to start a new project.
keep us posted please
I'm seriously tempted.
The date on their online shop has just changed from end of may to june.
I was wondering whether the people who had ordered already recieved theirs or if they have to wait until june too.
too deep ... again
TV\Hifi gear doesn't come 450 deep, racks\tv stands etc therefore don't accomodate such deep kit, becoming a PITA (and annoyingly limiting factor) in finding the right case.
I ordered a while back and was gutted to find out about the delay, late June is the earliest availability. However, the shop did tell me that as of last Monday there were 18 chassis left of the original allocation and that when they sold out that the next shipment was not due till late August. Worth noting though that my experience from a customer service perspective has been very good so far...managed to get an additional heatpipe set added to my order for free.
I will update you when I receive the case.
You need a new rack!
My Pioneer AX5ai is 450mm deep (including knobs on front, but not connections on back). It sits comfortably on my Optimum Prelude rack, which is actually 520mm deep!
Anyone have any ideas what those phono connectors could be used for?
Any MOBOs or Sound Cards that offer extra analog in/out headers?
Also, where do regular PSUs go? Specs seem to show proprietary PSU installed in front of case?
more to the point - did you get it yet shezzy...??
It's actually on it's way to me as we speak...should have it in a few days!
Its an interesting design but in the gallery the pic with the CPU cooler installed makes it look twisted. It might be designed like that but it looks like it isn't sitting comfortably.
Its nice to see a fresh case design as most manufacturers seem to be adapting old desktop designs which dont address modern cooling needs and are fitted with 60mm fans. IMO 1x120mm intake paired up with a sideways mounted 120mm fan PSU would provide excellent cooling for most systems.
Now available at quietpc.com (no affiliation)
I am very tempted, will be expensive, but I dont yet have a HDD PVR/recordable DVD/HD-DVD/BD player under the TV so if I were to buy all the seperate players (HDXE1, Toppy) etc it will probably work out cheaper, expecially as I already have most of the components, just need the PSU and large HDD.
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