As per my post in another thread in this forum, my dealer dropped me an email this morning to tell me that he had an 8500 (Silver) in stock. Here are a few pics. I also picked up a Pio AX5ai as these two are on my short list to be coupled with speakers from the B&W 60x range. I will try and post a few thoughts later this evening - haven't done anything other than unpack them at the moment as I need to go out again now I'll also see if I can take some better pictures. These were a tad rushed! One early observation is that the weight of the Pio is very very high compared with the Marantz. I was a bit surprised actually.