Marantz 4200 v 5200

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Well getting there now with the decision. Visited Richer Sound today. Can get a 4200 for £200 and 5200 for £400,

Is the extra £200 worth it for the SR5200?

Aslo, they tried to persuade me get the Mission Cinema 7 speaker set. Any one know if these are good?

Or would the Mission FS2 be better?


Any help kindly received.
 

nunew33

Standard Member
Mission 7 used to sell at £800. A couple of years ago the fronts were best in class (ie £400 floorstanders class). The Centre and rears are still regarded as good. So the £400 price tag makes them a very good deal.

I have the mission 7 (from Richer). With the Marantz 5200 (with Cabletalk xcel3) and am very pleased with it. They work well together. Despite fronts being floor standers and having a good range, benefits from a sub.

I use it mostly at low volumes where the detail is still there and on the odd occasion I turn it up a bit it certainly rocks.
 

Nobber22

Well-known Member
Originally posted by nunew33
Despite fronts being floor standers and having a good range, benefits from a sub.

Agree with Nunew33. V. good speakers , but they don't go low enough. Get the 4200 and use what you saved towards a good budget sub.
 

michaelab

Active Member
The only benefits of the 5200 over the 4200 are 6.1 and 85W per channel instead of 70W. IMO that's definitely not worth the extra £200. I was making exactly the same choice a month ago and went for the 4200 at Richer.

Michael.
 

MattTheCat

Standard Member
Easy peasy this one. Go for the SR4200. I got the SR6200 for £375, so SR4200 is a bit of a bargain, unike that 5200 ;)

Matt
 

nunew33

Standard Member
I got the 5200 for 360 from a bricks and mortar shop!!!! Why have they gone up in price? Agree though £200 isnt worth the 6th channel (price difference wasnt that great when I bought mine).
 

mansell

Active Member
go for the M72 set , I have these and can say that I'm more than pleased with them when paired with my SR5200

the m7ds are fantastic !!

and they look good !!

If you buy the 4200 you will regret it , the 5200 gives you some future proofing with 6.1
 

Nobber22

Well-known Member
Originally posted by mansell

If you buy the 4200 you will regret it , the 5200 gives you some future proofing with 6.1

No he won't regret it. It's a great amp. And surely spending just £200 on an amp in such a fast moving and changing market is the best future-proofing possible? In a year or two we will probably all be buying totally different equipment anyway. 6.1 might well be old hat by next Christmas anyway.:rolleyes:
 

nunew33

Standard Member
Its not proper 6.1 on the 5200. Its matrixed. If you want 6.1 go for a proper DTS ES discrete and an endorsed DD EX. Its not worth £200 extra. Its not real future proofing!!!!!

I have the 5200 so Im not poopooing it. But its not a real 6.1 amp, it just happens to have a go at it!!!
 

mansell

Active Member
nobber22 , you have a point

but where is it all going to end , 10.2 in peoples homes ?

I don't think so
 

Nobber22

Well-known Member
Originally posted by mansell
but where is it all going to end , 10.2 in peoples homes ?
I don't think so

But it would be nice, wouldn't it:cool: Of course it would require a divorce & then a second job to pay for the kit and a house with no neighbours and a HUGE living room too.:rolleyes: Now, how would I afford all my lager too:confused:
 

oregano76

Active Member
Originally posted by nunew33
Its not proper 6.1 on the 5200. Its matrixed. If you want 6.1 go for a proper DTS ES discrete and an endorsed DD EX. Its not worth £200 extra. Its not real future proofing!!!!!

I have the 5200 so Im not poopooing it. But its not a real 6.1 amp, it just happens to have a go at it!!!

What is the difference between matrixed and discrete - is it noticeable. I bought the 5200 on the understanding it was a 6.1 machine. Now I see the 5300 is claiming better things I'm a bit miffed. Please someone put my mind at ease!
 

nunew33

Standard Member
Onlt dts es is discrete. What we have on the 5200 is Marantz's own Matrixed channel for 6.1 encoded discs. Hence they dont use the official logo for DD EX (which is matrixed anyway) or DTS ES which has a matrixed version as well as a discrete version). I am sure Marantz matrix method is as good as the official one but they didnt have to pay a licence fee for it!!!!

Its a good amp!!! 6.1 or not. The 5300 gives you DTS discrete, neo6 (DPL2 is better in most opinions) and Circle surround (again a form of DPL2 - some prefer it some dont). It gives you the officially endorsed DTS ES matrix and DD EX. So you really arent missing out on much.
 

michaelab

Active Member
Watched (heard?) Lord of the Rings last night through my SR4200 and the sound was incredible. Can't really see how 6.1 could improve things and LOTR is not even a DTS disc (just regular DD 5.1). Are there actually any 6.1 discs out there?

Also, watched Goldeneye on video (regular stereo) using the Dolby ProLogic II processing just to see how it would work and was also blown away at what a good job it does. The sound on my old videos has been given a new lease of life! Shame about the picture quality though :(

Michael.
 

Huggy

Active Member
BTW - you can get the Marantz SR5200 for 330 GBP at Richers at the moment.

Still a big mark up on the 4200 IMHO
 

martian1

Well-known Member
Go for the 6200 if you can i had the 5200 and it lacked power, not that i play loud but i dont like to put a srain on my speakers. My old yamaha amp had bags more power and it was rated 70watts!
 

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