Manhattan T3-R Freeview Play PVR Review & Comments

Ensor

Active Member
Hmm, the "Watchlist" feature is not unique to the Manhattan. Humax Youview boxes have had this feature for years, I use it on mine all the time!

Nice review, I've been looking at the T3-R with interest for a while as I hate my Youview box and am looking for a decent alternative.
 

Ensor

Active Member
I have swapped the HDD for and SSD for silent operation...

You realise that the live TV buffer, which allows you to pause and rewind the channel you're viewing, will wear out your SSD in a matter of weeks...?
 

Toobad

Active Member
I've had the T3R since launch about 15 months ago. I moved across when my trusty BT YouView box finally bit the dust. Performance-wise I would say it is on par, maybe just a tad zippier. I was put off the latest Humax 5000 series as the obvious replacement because so many people were reporting the remote response had to be timed with a calendar ;) I love the interface and find the layout logical. I think the stand-out moment for me was when it streamed Seven Worlds, One Planet on iPlayer in UHD to our 65" Samsung 4K TV.

In the early days the firmware was blighted by lock-ups, unresponsiveness and a wild auto-scrolling bug in the menus. The technical team sent me a USB with some beta firmware and data-logging software. This cured the problem but left channel zapping noticeably slower. The next beta cured that but caused erratic restarts until v.1.06.15 got everything back to normal. OTA updates now have it running v.1.07 since June and all is still well. There is still one small foible where the box would normally come out of standby and select Channel 101 (BBC1 HD) but on very rare occasions decides to select Channel 11 (Pick TV). I think Steve's review rating is well-deserved.
 

timearp

Active Member
I have one and like it, previously I had a Toppy (Topfield 5800) which lasted well, the picture quality is an improvement on this, even SD.
I also have a Roku 4k stuck and a Pi running Kodi so am not concerned with it not doing everything.
 

Richard Groves

Standard Member
Like most, have been a Humax owner for years, but it is starting to feel a bit dated. This is on my list when mine croaks it, sounds excellent

Same here - got an ageing Humax whose UI sluggishness continues to annoy. Once Manhatten get the remote recording app out I think I'll jump over.
 

Jonrstorey

Standard Member
You realise that the live TV buffer, which allows you to pause and rewind the channel you're viewing, will wear out your SSD in a matter of weeks...?

Thats the rumour but not really worried as its the same 240GB Sandisk SSD that I took out of the Humax before I sold it.

So it has already run for 24 months in the Humax with the TV buffer running continuous 24/7 because the Humax was so slow to boot so we never turned it off.

I tested it before i installed it in the T3-R with the Sandisk software and, from memory, it said it was still well under 40% through its life cycle.

So with the T3-R now switched off half of the time i am hopeful there is years left in the SSD....

£30 is worth it to me for completely silent operation and it does also seem to speed boot up by a fraction - maybe a placebo effect but it doesn't come up with the message saying it has found the HDD so guess its at least sped that process up.

edit. plus I bought a cheap caddy and use the original 500GB out of the T3-R as a backup drive, so can swap it back if the SSD did ever fail.
 
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crashcris

Well-known Member
I have a Panasonic which i bought about seven years ago which i still use and it works perfectly.
I even added an external seagate hard drive several years ago to improve disc space, i don't think you can do that with a Humax or a Manhattan.
You certainly can on the Humax HDR-2000T
 

crashcris

Well-known Member
I purchased one of these earlier in the year but there were two issues which caused me to reject the product - no DLNA/Network viewing (as client or server) and no copy facility - it's really a standalone box. I transfer films and some series to disk for watching on a 2m cinema screen (Kodi) and also for holiday viewing. My current Humax HDR Fox T2 (with the custom firmware, which is excellent) does all this (SD only copy). I use a Raspberry Pi 3/4 tuner combo for HD recordings. I guess it all depends on your use case, but I like maximum flexibility.
No copy to external HDD is a deal breaker for me. I've got 4 Humax HDR 2000t boxes and I love them. The best feature is copying programmes to an external HDD and freeing up space on the box itself as well as archiving stuff. Otherwise I'd have been tempted by this Manhattan. Shame. I'll be all in, if in future they manage to get their box to do this however.
 
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zAndy1

Distinguished Member
Where are we with the firmware updates for this, did the promised sept update come to add CEC and manual padding etc? What about remote recording any timescales for that at all?
 

kbfern

Distinguished Member

MBHeatonMoor

Standard Member
Where are we with the firmware updates for this, did the promised sept update come to add CEC and manual padding etc? What about remote recording any timescales for that at all?
Last release was July 1.08 and the features you request I think are in the V1.5 release (which was slated for September) with remote recording in V2. I am told the features I wanted (DLNA and USB file transfer) will never happen for HD due to commercial licensing constraints - something the manual home theatre builders will easily bypass/ignore.
 

Fido87456

Active Member
Thanks for the review, I’d never heard of these, but have just bought one based entirely on the review and comments in this thread, after my Humax started mis-behaving. First impressions are very good! 😎
 

Philly112

Distinguished Member
I've also just bought one. Seems fast and the interface is very intuitive; the manual is still unused in the box. The remote can be programmed to control (very) basic TV functions. Unfortunately, the lack of Netflix or Prime means we still need to use the TV remote for those which is a bit of a pain.
I found that the Freeview Play guide wouldn't scroll back. Unplugging it and starting again seemed to solve this; hopefully it was a one off. Although it's a feature we'd rarely use, I expect it to work!
 

Philly112

Distinguished Member
The new firmware is now available for download. Britbox added, manual padding, HDMI CEC, quite a few other features.

 
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lostinspace

Well-known Member
I don't see Britbox availability as that big a deal. Adding the big streaming services (Disney+ etc) would have suited me as I could have run any Atmos programming via the Manhattan.

I have no use for the rest of the update but some no doubt will.
 

ash1942

Standard Member
I don't see Britbox availability as that big a deal. Adding the big streaming services (Disney+ etc) would have suited me as I could have run any Atmos programming via the Manhattan.

I have no use for the rest of the update but some no doubt will.
I’ve found myself back in the freeview STB market and seem reluctant to go with Humax based on past experiences. The humax boxes have been fairly solid but I’ve found that they don’t tend to get much support after initial release.
Manhattan adding Britbox to this STB is not something I would really make use of either but it’s the principle that they are working with other providers to add more functionality to their products which is interesting.
You see it a lot, products like this when there is just a one off purchase. The manufacturers have no incentive to maintain them and when we are in a world of constant updates it means your product can become outdated quickly.
My old Samsung tv was top of the line 5 years ago and they promised to support it for a couple of years. The very next year they released a new OS (tizen) and promised to port it over to my tv. I’m still waiting for the update 😂
I guess the alternative would be manufactured charge a small amount for major updates, but I guess consumers would complain.
Anyway this box seems interesting to me especially if it is faster at booting than a humax.
 

Philly112

Distinguished Member
For those of you who've registered their box with Manhattan, there's an optional update released today. It's via a special sub menu which needs a code to access. I updated mine as I did have YouTube freeze on two occasions. The only solution was to unplug and reboot the box. I haven't tested whether this update has solved the problem.

We're releasing an optional v2.02 patch for your T3-R today. While we know most of our customers have had no problem accessing and enjoying BritBox and the other new features in the v2.00 update, we’re aware some of you have been having issues and sincerely apologise.
The major issue we've had reported is that some people have found their T3-R keeps rebooting shortly after booting. This is due to an issue with the way the v2.00 software works when there is more than one Wi-Fi access point (e.g. mesh networks, extenders, etc) and there is a change in their relative strengths. We've resolved this for those of you affected.
There are a handful of other issues that have been reported by some customers and with Christmas fast approaching we wanted to address these before the break. As there are still other issues we are working on we are making this an optional update and will be releasing a bigger update in the new year. We recommend you only update if you have multiple Wi-Fi access points, are affected by the above reboot issue or are affected by any of the following:
  • Content in ITV Hub cannot be launched from ITV or ITV HD in the TV Guide (Error SS700). This has been resolved in v2.02 and the workaround in v2.00 is to launch the content from Search or directly in ITV Hub
  • YouTube playback is poor and the app exits or the box freezes. This is related to an improvement we made for smoothing fast forwarding and rewinding of recordings. We've temporarily reverted this improvement to avoid problems in YouTube.
  • The recordings menu appears empty and only the Schedule is accessible. We suspect this is due to a change we made to HDD initialisation as part of a number of changes to resolve the T3-R sometimes failing to wake from standby. We've reverted this change.
  • Unexpected partial/failed recordings. This is not specific to v2.00 but a long-standing issue related to HDD initialisation and standby synchronisation that occurs randomly in some boxes more than others. This has now been resolved.

 

ash1942

Standard Member
I took the plunge yesterday and went with the Manhattan. So far so good. I am impressed with the speed of turning on and navigating the menus (It makes my 2020 Samsung TV feel sluggish).
I read the notice about them providing a patch before Xmas to help people having issues.
I think that’s a really good attitude from a manufacturer.
 

daymouse

Distinguished Member
Am I right in thinking Manhattan doesn’t have the ability to remote record from a mobile device?

Is there any news this maybe coming get all?
 

zAndy1

Distinguished Member
Am I right in thinking Manhattan doesn’t have the ability to remote record from a mobile device?

Is there any news this maybe coming get all?

Correct but as far as I know it's coming in a later update although not sure how far away that is
 

daymouse

Distinguished Member
Correct but as far as I know it's coming in a later update although not sure how far away that is
Thanks for that, do you mean remote record or an actual app for iOS and Android as I can’t see any kind of app on the Apple App Store for Manhattan!
 

zAndy1

Distinguished Member
Thanks for that, do you mean remote record or an actual app for iOS and Android as I can’t see any kind of app on the Apple App Store for Manhattan!
I was referring to the remote record feature
 

ash1942

Standard Member
Another common feature I’ve noticed this box doesn’t have is “resume playback” on recordings. Although it does allow you to jump to a specific time.
 

ash1942

Standard Member
Another common feature I’ve noticed this box doesn’t have is “resume playback” on recordings. Although it does allow you to jump to a specific time.
Actually I’ve just discovered it does have a “resume playback” feature but it looks as though you have to cleanly quit playback for it to register that it had been watched. On the occasions it didn’t work for me i was turning the device off rather than stopping playback.
 

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