I know I've asked you this before and you tried to point me in the right direction. I know the dangers, the wasted time, the frustration you've had. But could you please tell me how to get into the service menu. I have qualifications in electronics if that helps. But I need to know as the convergence in the bottom right corner is out and I can see a green line above the white crosshair. If you don't want to post it here try Kevin@KevsDomain.freeserve.co.uk. Regards Kev. ------------------ Is he the one?