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m7DS vs 77DS

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by Dr.Rock, Feb 18, 2002.

  1. Dr.Rock

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    The general agreement seems to be that the older Mission 77DS are superior to the newer M7DS rear speakers. Can someone tell me if it's a big difference between the two? Is it worth me searching the four corners of the earth for the 77ds or will I not be missing much if I was to go for the widely available M7ds?

    Thanks.
     
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    There's an earlier thread about this isn't it?

    -TF

    EDIT: embaresing speling mitake :D
     
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    Hi, Some Richer Sounds branches have the 77ds!
    I have heard they are superior to the newer M7ds.

    Infact I bought a pair of 77ds at Richer sounds Birmingham 4.30 this afternoon. (monday 18th Feb)..... for £99 They told me they had about fifteen pairs of 77ds in stock.

    Very few Richer Sounds will order for you, although they will reserve for you if they have it in stock.....

    Oxford branch is about the only branch that will order out of stock items for you, if thats not too far away for you!
    Their phone number is 01865 243 444 speak to Eddy.

    Regards JOHN
     
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    Damn... how come everything's so far away from where I live :(

    -TF
     
  5. Dr.Rock

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    In what way is the discontinued 77ds supposed to be better than the current m7ds, nobody has mentioned in any of the threads. Do the 77ds actually SOUND better or is everyone just going by the knocked-down clearout price?

    Thanks.
     
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    get down to an av dealer and give them a listen
     
  7. caylem

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    Have a dem of both pairs at your local dealer
     
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    Does anyone know what the connections are for speaker cables?

    I am currently using the M71's as rears and am considering getting the M7D's instead.

    Cheers!

    mustang.
     
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    mustang

    The speaker connections for the m7ds are binding post, if that's what you mean by "connections for speaker cables".
     
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    Cheers Duvel, that is what I meant by "connections for speaker cables" :blush:

    mustang.
     
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    They just have the one set of post i.e. not bi-wirable but they should take 4mm banana plugs if you use them.
     
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    The m7ds belong to the "cheaper" m70 series but check this :
    1) Power : m7ds :100w , 77ds: 75w
    2) Frequency response : m7ds : 75Hz-20kHz, 77ds :100Hz-20kHz.
    3) Effective volume : m7ds : 4.2 llitres , 77ds : 4.0 litres.
    4) Terminals : m7ds : gold plated binding posts, 77ds : spring clips.
    5) Finally the m7ds are magnetically shielded ,the 77ds not.
     
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    Whoa... I'm sticking with my m7DSs then :)

    -TF
     
  14. Duvel

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    The 77ds most definately do not use spring clips unless mine are the only pair with binding post;) and who needs magnetically shielded rear speakers? wouldn't have thought that was a big requirment myself.

    As always though the proof of the pudding....... only way to tell for sure which is best suited to oneself is demo both:)
     
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    They use binding posts. I have a pair!

    Although if they are mounted on a wall, you can't use the posts as there is not enough clearance.

    Annoyingly.
     
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    Maybe there is a batch of 77ds that uses sping terminals. ( check
    the 77ds reviews in http://audioreview.com : owners complain about cheapish spring terminals ) But what about the other data I mention (taken from the Mission site)
     
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    1)Power is not the be all to a better speaker;)
    2)Doesn't this mean the 77ds has a greater frequency response?
    3)no idea
    4) Ok I'll give you the gold plated bit, but my 77ds DO have binding post that allow 4mm banana plugs. Can't use banana plugs if wall mounted but I can still wall mount using Cable Talk 3.1 wrapped around binding post. NO spring clips here.
    5) As I already said this is not a big requirement for rear speakers, Ok if you've got it but no big deal.

    I'm not saying the 77ds are better speakers than the m7ds because I haven't heard the m7ds and one could only really judge if they were heard side by side and even then it could still boil down to individual taste.

    All these figures are all well and good but will never compare to actually listening for oneself:)
     
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    That sounds a bit strange as my 77DS has recessed binding posts and there is no problem with wall mounting.....
    Mind you they feel a bit heavy after youve offered them up to the wall screws a few times.

    What a great speaker they are, Im really amazed at the frequency response of these units (subjectively speaking)considering their size.
     
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    Dear Duvel,
    75Hz-20kHz is wider freq.response than 100Hz-20kHz.
    ( 75Hz is "lower" than 100Hz )
     
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    Ok you may be right, I'm not the expert you obviously are;) you seem quite keen on the m7ds and I'm more than happy with my 77ds (binding post included) so that's that.

    By the way have you heard any 77ds? because as I have already said, figures well they're just that aren't they, ie not the be all and end all.
     
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    I dont want to prove anything against 77ds.
    The 77 series is out of production.(Limited availibility) Maybe the cheaper m7ds represent better value for money. And finally I'm sure there is no reason to upgrade from m7ds to 77ds. I believe they sound identical.
     
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    Too complicated for me to understand that article.

    But I'm really tired and trying to read it whilst listening to the radio.

    Anyway, my m7ds has arrived, and the posts are recessed, but I'm not sure if they are sufficient to allow wall mounting.

    Damn HiFiJunkies for taking 3 days to send my cable.

    -TF
     
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    Interesting post this is.

    I am trying to find out as well which speaker is the best to get 77DS or m7ds??

    I am still not sure after reading these posts which one it should be!?!!?

    Has anyone heard both and can give an opinion???

    Need to know as I am buying my speakers this week and want to get the better speaker.

    Thanks all,


    Daz
     
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    Well, if you can get the M77DS for £99, then that's the best thing to do, as I've not seen the M7DS for under £125. I believe the drive units in the 77s are of higher quality, as they are part of the 77 range, rather than the 7 range.

    I have the M7DS in my current system, which is all M7 (M7C1 centre, M71 fronts), and think they're great. However I have just bought some M77DS for my new HT room, but have not had chance to compare directly.

    I'm sure you'll be delighted with either.

    FWIW, my M77s do have recessed binding posts, but as stated previously, they don't really recess far enough to allow bananas - unless you can get some angled ones maybe.
     
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    77DS have gold binding posts.
     
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    the 77ds had spring clips when they first came out but these were subsequently replaced by binding posts:)
     

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