m&k xenon

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  1. killer10971

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    im considering buy this speaker setup after listening to it and being very impressed

    the setup was

    three xenon 35 for the front
    two xenon surround 25 tripole for the rear
    kx12 sub

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    a couple of questions i have is will i get the as good an experience as i have a denon 2105 (the guy in the shop said it will be, well he would wouldnt he )
    and quoted £2740 is this a good price

    what do people who own them actually think of them

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    If you're after recreating the demanding soundtracks movies produce, Miller & Kreisel are pretty hard to beat. They will outperform equivalent, even more expensive hi-fi speakers because the demands of movies and music are very different.

    I would be suprised if a dealer still has 25/35's left, as they were discontinued earlier this year. If it is an 25/35 setup, you should get a pretty good deal on them. Otherwise you can get the newer, better finished 26/36 setup for about the same.

    The KX-12 sub is the minimum you should be looking at getting with the Xenon's, but ideally, spend a little more for the VX-1250 at £895.

    These are 4 Ohm speakers, so you need to be careful with your Denon amp. I ideally you need a 3806, or better still a 4306 to get the best from them. If you're not running them at near 0db, you should be ok with the 2106.

    The Xenon's will sound better at home, everything does. I have never taken anything home and found it to sound worse. Instore, you have to turn the system up louder than you need to at home for some reason, so they'll sound even more effortless than they do usually.
     
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    hi

    thanks for the reply

    the ones i looked at were the piano black high gloss finished ones so im guessing the latest model 26/36, but on the quote he has put 35/25

    i dont normally need to go anywhere near 0db (-10 max)

    i will look at upgrading my amp/receiver later at the moment i have a combo of a mission m7 centre (i think) and the speakers and sub from a jvc home cinema setup, so the speake upgrade is a big jump

    cheers
     
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    I'd question why he has put the 25/35 combo on there.....who is the retailer? There used to be gloss black versions of the 25 and 35, but were no longer imported into this country by the distributor almost 2 years ago now.

    If it is the 26/36 combo, it's well worth the rrp as nothing will come close for movies, but you may get a deal on some cables or something by the retailer. But i'd definitely pay the extra for the sub if possible.
     
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    For some reason when you buy a 26/36 combo it is referred to as a 35 system or 25 system so that may be why. At least it is that way on the official pricelist.

    I have the older 25 surrounds and they are fantastic speakers, as suggested though they need to be driven well so certainly consider your amplification carefully :)
     
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    AS i understand it, the 26 and 36 are only available in the UK, not in the US. It may be 25 and 35 in the US list, but it's now 26 and 36 in the UK distributor Gecko's price list.
     
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    From the UK October 05 pricelist:

    Xenon 25 System - HG 3 x Xenon 26, 2 x Surround 26 tripoles, VX760 sub £2,441.00
    Xenon 35 System - HG 3 x Xenon 36, 2 x Surround 26's VX760 sub £2,741.00
    Xenon 45 System - HG 3 x Xenon 36, 2 x Surround 26's MX700 sub £3,441.00


    Hope that helps. :)
     
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    cheers all , a great help
     
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    these are the best sounding sats i have heard, and as good as floorstanders imho :cool:
     
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    Auditioned these yesterday and was really impressed (36' and 26's with a vx850 sub) with the sats but less so with the sub!

    Cracking set of speaker but not cheap!!
     
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    Seeing as the sub affects the way the satellites sound, it must have been doing it's job......
     
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    I've ordered the new Xenons for use alongside my plasma.

    You really need to hear them with the new MK 2x8" MX7000. At £995 it ain't cheap, buy it's a hell of a sub for music - really fast and clean.

    I'm waiting for the Titanium Xenons which are due in mid September.
     
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    Has anyone compared the K-Series range to the Xenon system? I have the K-Series speakers and am wondering if there is much of a jump in quality between the two. My current 3805 amp will shortly be upgraded to the Arcam 350 or, if funds allow the pre/power combo (can't remember the model numbers).

    Didn't realise the Xenons were quite so expensive :eek: If I did go the Xenon route it would certainly be one or two speakers at a time!

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    Quite a jump I would say, but that is based on a comparison of the K4 with the older Xenon 25 Surround which, is noticably better. :)
     
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    The Xenons, even though they're smaller, can fill a bigger room easier (work that one out), and sound much more open and detailed. They are 4 Ohms, where the K's are 8 Ohms, so will need a suitable amplifier....the AVR-350 or Denon AVR-4306 will do fine, but a pre/power will do a better job.

    The only drawback is that you'll need a bigger sun than the K's need.....a KX-12 minimum, but ideally a VX-1250 or MX7000.
     
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    with ref to the fact that these are 4ohm speakers will i have problems with my denon 2105 as its 8ohms and have read a post about some guys amp getting hot beacause of this

    the amps only got to do its job for 8mths tops until i can get my arcam avr350 or should i get the avr 350 and get a cheaper speaker package

    cheers
     
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    As long as you don't drive them too hard they and the amp should be ok but i would be cautious...the Arcam will be fine...
     
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    So long as you don't attempt to run your amp at reference levels it should be fine with the Xenons.

    I am going to see if I can get a demo of the Xenons over the weekend :D Don't think I have ever walked into a hi-fi shop and not walked out with some new equipment :)

    James
     

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