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M & K K series

Discussion in 'Home Cinema Speakers' started by Trickdick, Feb 6, 2005.

  1. Trickdick

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    Hi

    AM looking to upgrade my home cinema speaker set up.

    Have had a brief demo of M&K K5 and K4s

    Currently running Denon 2803 amp, and REL Strata sub.

    Is there any real benefit from buying K7s rather than K5s? (I will only use them for home cinema)

    Will the Denon cope with running these speakers?

    Does anyone have any alternative speaker systems they would recommend that are a similar size to the M&Ks?

    Thanks for your help
     
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    Trickdick - the Denon should run the M&K's and they are very good for movies, other alternatives for the K series would be the Keff eggs or MS Genies as they are similar in size but not as good.
     
  3. arielshiran

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    I have checked some sets and the other ones I consider are:
    1) Monitor Audio Radius 90s+180 as a center.
    2) JMLab Sib & Cub set.
    3) Tannoy Arena.
    4) M&K K5s for all 5 channels.
    The K4 is 4 ohms of impedance and I asked some supporters of both Denon and M&K and the use of 4 ohms speakers together with 8 ohms speakers and together with a Denon receiver is not recommended and could make harm and will not sound good.
    I think that the JMLab Sibs sound great, their sensitivity is 90db, which means they are easy to push and they are much cheaper, so I really do not find any reason to pay more for the other sets. I think you should demo them as well as the other sets and tell me what you think.
    Enjoy and good luck.
     
  4. inzaman

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    For the rears i wouldnt rule out the K4s, i currently have K4s at the rear.
    I have also owned the kef eggs, the tripole design of the K4s just opens up the rear sound stage far more than the kef eggs could ever do.
     
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    Agree with Inzaman the k-4s are excellent rears the best ive heard at the price.
    Cheers Gonzo.
     
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    I've got the K4s and love 'em. I went for the K17s. Not really sure what the difference is but they are excellent. I listened to the Eggs, Genies, Castle Compacts and Cabasse Ki - none of them could touch the K series for movies.

    I have heard the Anthony Gallo micros and was really impressed with them. Not as good as the K series but probably better than any of the others. Plus they're tiny which may be a factor. A good sub is needed with them though.
     
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    Are u using speakers with 4 ohms of resistance together with speakers with 8 ohms of resistance using the same receiver at the same time?
    If so, how long do you work this way? Wasn't there any damage to either the speakers nor the receiver? I don't know if buying 5 K5s + a KX10 is a good choice because I thought a K7 will be a better choice for a center but I am afraid that the impedance of it may harm either the speakers or the receiver. Denon's support told me not to connect 4 ohms speakers to their receivers and I think of buying a Denon receiver and this may be a problem.
     
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    Mornin'

    There is no problem with using 4Ohm and 8Ohm speakers togther as there are speaker packages out there (even a THX package I know) that are 4Ohm at the front and 8Ohms at the back.

    My parents have the Denon 1705 and run floorstanders at the front which are 2.6Ohms and 8Ohm speakers at the rear!!! No problems there.

    regards
     
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    I use both 4ohm and 8ohm speakers, the K4s at the rear are 4ohm and the B&Ws at the front are 8ohm and no problems once you have set up, adjusted volumes etc.
     
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    Hi all

    Thanks for your helpful advice.

    I am in a bit of a dilemma now as I contacted Denon by email and they have said that the M&K's can damage the speaker connection on the amp and that I should use 8 ohm speakers.

    What should I do now........????
     
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    That seems a bit harsh from Denon i would of thought that the 2803 would of driven the K5's ok, i suppose they are just covering them selves but i would also maybe try and speak to Gecko the Distributor for M&K in this country and see what they say.
     
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    I got the same reply from Denon's support as well:
    "Dear Sir
    The impedance of 4ohms is not recommended to be used with our amps. 8 ohms is recommended, or 6 is ok if you use them just on speaker A or just on speaker B settings and not A+B together.
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    If anybody has a different explanation or answer for the question of: Will a Denon receiver be able to work with 4 ohms speakers, please let us know. From the support of M&K in the US I got this answer:
    "4. Regarding the impedance of the different models; How will a
    Denon 2105 for
    example handle 4ohm speakers in a good way? Will there be any problems
    connecting 4ohm
    speakers together with 8ohm speakers in the same system? No problem."
    So something is contradictory here. Denon says one thing and M&K says another.
     
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    as they are 8 ohms. The other models (besides the K5 and K15) are the problematic models because they are 4 ohms. Besides that, it is written in that thread that Denon's receivers are better be used with 8 ohms speakers.
     
  15. Trickdick

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    Thank you all for your helpful advice.

    I've just placed my order for 3 x K7's and a pair of K4's for the rear.

    I'll let you know if my amp blows up!! :laugh:

    Have fun
     
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    Trickdick - Congrats the M&K's are excellent speakers and i am sure they'll be just fine, make sure you give the amp plenty of room to breathe.
     
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    My main set up (home cinema in my upper cellar):

    Denon 2900 DVD player
    Denon AVR 3803 Amp
    Front LCR 3xM&K K5
    Rears 4xM&K K4
    Sub M&K K10

    Projector - ThemeScene H56
    Screen - Stewart Firehawk

    BEAUTY!

    I've had this for over a year now (installation December 2003), and have no complaints at all.

    Steve W
     
  18. Trickdick

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    Hi

    Now taken delivery of my K7s and K4s.

    All plumbed in and ............wow!

    What a sound- in 5.1 it sounds so much better than my previous 7.1 set up.

    Steering and detail is phenomenal. I need to crank the amp up a little higher than previously but other than that, its a 100% improvement.

    Thank goodness I didnt buy the Kef Eggs or the MS Genie!! :thumbsup:

    Happy watching and listening
     
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    Excellent news Trickdick congrats mate and enjoy, the M&K's are excellent speakers :thumbsup:

    Cheers
     
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    I have also been using M&K speakers with a Denon amp - 3 x K7s, 4 x K4s and 2 VX-100 subs with a Denon AVC A11SR. I have had this running for nearly 3 years and it seems to work well together.
     
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    It has long been said that Denon & M&K work well together but I think there is a big difference between the THX approved higher level models that can handle the more difficult loads with ease and the cheaper non THX approved models.
     

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