You’re exactly correct. I play a lot of multichannel SACD and Blu-ray audio discs thst support PCM multichannel. Previously I listened to SACD primarily in DSD thanks to the support provided by Krell, NOT offered by Lyngdorf as we know. This is such a great lesson in how powerful one’s predetermined expectation can alter perception. That web interface glitch messed with my listening! I’m completely satisfied now that my unit is outputting uncompressed audio. I’m fine with PCM as regards SACD. DSD a little mellower and more analogue like. Splitting hairs, though, I believe. I have my OPPO is set up properly I believe and it sounds great, though in a tug of war with the Krell I think here Krell has an edge only bc of its support for DSD. But all that said, this is a superb unit and it’s incredibly efficient. seems to deliver a LOT more gain on the output stage than what I’d been accustomed to. Power utilization to achieve same relative DB is about 34% relative to the Foundation at 70%. Interesting. The only weakness so far IMHO is the lack of analogue which is ”forcing“ me into the purchase of a stereo preamp do I may continue to enjoy my DirectStream DAC! Anyway, here is a pic of my set up menu for my OPPO.
Hello Krellfan1 and welcome onboard the lyngdorf train.
I am not in here so often (as I also have a life
) but i just read through your Lyngdorf birth and want to clear up and add to the stuff you have been covering.
The MP60 is as you know a 100% digital preamplifier. If you have analog sources, you can add whatever A/D you like for great results. I do this with several sources and i love the sound of those A/Ds.
Over time, you will be extremely happy to discover that the MP60 is a advanced immersive sound processor, that allows ordinary users to tailor everything just the way you like it, as you can combine multiple choices of audio and video sources with custom voicings (advanced eq), gain settings and audio upmixing into single source selections. I just love that, and use it to correct different things in different situations from sound signature to delays. It does NOT require a custom installer to work with these things as you have discovered, and it makes it the highest-end processor on the market that does not require a certification to customise. In other words, it will adapt with your wishes and listening/viewing situations very easily. You can always create a new source, and add voicings, delay and upmix settings to it, for fast recall when needed. It takes away much messing around in the interface when you just want to enjoy.
There is no native DSD support as you also discovered. In real life, "native DSD" support would not make a difference, as it has to be converted to PCM in order for processing to work with it. So if the PCM conversion happens in the OPPO 205 (witch it does extremely well) or in the processor itself, does not matter. Set it for bitstream out, and it will bitstream every time this is required, and send out PCM when you play CDs, DVD-Audio and SACD`s.
Also remember, that the OPPO 205 is a amazing network player. If you have digital files on a network or on a USB drive these will be played from the OPPO with ease and amazing quality. The 205 also does MQA playback and it also does ROON and multichannel high resolution audio playback very well. The internal player of the MP60 only does stereo, so the 205 is a great addition to the setup.
This might be placebo... but I think that the SP/DIF output sounds better than the HDMI output when using the 205 for stereo playback... You can have both connected at any time to A/B what you like the best.
Software, both lyngdorf app and MP60 software is constantly being refined. The latest software gave you the ability to access the things that was previously only avaliable in the OSD interface. They are located in the bottom of the front webpage mp60.local/.
second last... all internal processing in the MP60 is done at 96kHz (or actually 97,6kHz in order to avoid any 1:1 conversion issues at 96 kHz input). I dont think that 192 khz sources have much to gain. I cant hear a difference using external converters running at 192 vs 96k.
Last... the input / output info in the interfaces show that the processor is being presented with. So when you, say - play a internet radio station you will not see it saying mp3 128kbps. It will rapport 16bit 44.1khz 2.0 audio, since that is what is received from the internal player module.
The output module shows the result of the processing being done.
When using the MP60 for music in your multi channel cinema, try using the upmixers. A lot of people like the Auro 3D or dolby upmixing.
I have sent you a PM, with info on how you can reach me if you have any other issues, since I am not here that often. (
@arisholm bugs the hell out of me, when he goes into REW mode, and cant find the time to come and fine-tune my system for free
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